1 hour ago, paco said:

Legend? He was a starter for 3 seasons before being replaced by a real Eagles legend, Foles.

Our history isn't exactly full of legends at the QB position. 😁

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Step one: cut a hole in a box.

Step two: put your junk in that box...

😄

41 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

They like him in the playoffs and are seeing his overall play through that lense probably. But 3 out of his last 6 years are poor. Including missing extra points. And not having a kicker who is more consistent from 50 and out is quite the handicap, comparatively speaking with top NFL teams. You cant even trot him out there for a 60 yarder realistically. His 40-49 yard range even dipped last year (7-10 for 70%). That should be closer to 85%. Plenty of kickers lose it by their early 30s. The trend with him is just looking awful. I think he's cooked.

I'll be honest, I just don't think being able to hit a reliable 60 yard field goal will ever mean that much to me, get an offense that doesn't stall in your own half in a two minute drill so you're not relying on making stupid long field goals at the half.

5 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Step one: cut a hole in a box.

Step two: put your junk in that box...

😄

After slamming a 30 mg drink this weekend I figured out that if you bleep out the word dick, the hook to that song works great for Cologaurd commercials

It's my **** in a box
My **** in a box babe
It's my **** in a box
Ooh, my **** in a box girl

7 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Step one: cut a hole in a box.

Step two: put your junk in that box...

😄

'And that's the way you do it...

It's my kick, win or loss.'

57 minutes ago, BayAreaLennie said:

Starting his rookie year, Elliott has missed 8, 7, 6, 7, 3, 5, 3, 9 and 8 kicks in each of the years of his career. Part of why it feels like he has been so bad the past two seasons is he was so good the prior three. He has certainly not been as proficient the past two years, and has had some bad cold streaks, but he is only 31 years old and I just don't think the sky is falling.

I always felt like he misses the chip shots but gets the long ones. Asking AI for a detailed list kind of proved me wrong

2017 Season (5 Misses)

• 46 yards vs. Kansas City Chiefs (Week 2) — Wide left

• 52 yards vs. New York Giants (Week 3) — Short/Wide right

• 49 yards vs. Arizona Cardinals (Week 5) — Wide right

• 50 yards vs. Washington Redskins (Week 7) — Wide right

• 49 yards vs. Dallas Cowboys (Week 11) — Wide right

2018 Season (5 Misses)

• 55 yards vs. Indianapolis Colts (Week 3) — Wide right

• 54 yards vs. Minnesota Vikings (Week 5) — Wide left

• 36 yards vs. New York Giants (Week 6) — Wide right

• 54 yards vs. Dallas Cowboys (Week 14) — Wide right

• 53 yards vs. Los Angeles Rams (Week 15) — Short

2019 Season (4 Misses)

• 41 yards vs. Atlanta Falcons (Week 2) — Wide right

• 47 yards vs. Detroit Lions (Week 3) — Wide left

• 55 yards vs. Dallas Cowboys (Week 7) — Wide right

• 47 yards vs. New England Patriots (Week 11) — Wide left

2020 Season (5 Misses)

• 53 yards vs. Washington Football Team (Week 1) — Wide right

• 54 yards vs. Cincinnati Bengals (Week 3) — Wide left

• 57 yards vs. Baltimore Ravens (Week 6) — Wide right

• 22 yards vs. Cleveland Browns (Week 11) — Hit left upright

• 29 yards vs. Seattle Seahawks (Week 12) — Wide right

2021 Season (3 Misses)

• 46 yards vs. San Francisco 49ers (Week 2) — Blocked

• 47 yards vs. Kansas City Chiefs (Week 4) — Wide right

• 37 yards vs. New York Giants (Week 12) — Wide left

2022 Season (3 Misses)

• 38 yards vs. Arizona Cardinals (Week 5) — Wide right

• 55 yards vs. Washington Commanders (Week 10) — Wide right

• 54 yards vs. Chicago Bears (Week 15) — Hit right upright

2023 Season (2 Misses)

• 55 yards vs. New York Jets (Week 6) — Wide right

• 44 yards vs. Dallas Cowboys (Week 14) — Wide left

2024 Season (8 Misses)

• 50 yards vs. Green Bay Packers (Week 1) — Wide right

• 43 yards vs. Atlanta Falcons (Week 2) — Wide left

• 53 yards vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Week 4) — Short

• 44 yards vs. Cleveland Browns (Week 6) — Hit left upright

• 49 yards vs. Cincinnati Bengals (Week 8) — Wide right

• 51 yards vs. Jacksonville Jaguars (Week 9) — Wide left

• 41 yards vs. Washington Commanders (Week 11) — Hit right upright

• 48 yards vs. Baltimore Ravens (Week 13) — Wide right

2025 Season (7 Misses)

• 42 yards vs. Minnesota Vikings (Week 7) — Wide left

• 58 yards vs. New York Giants (Week 8) — Hit right upright

• 48 yards vs. Los Angeles Chargers (Week 13) — Wide right

• 56 yards vs. Dallas Cowboys (Week 12) — Wide right

• 43 yards vs. Washington Commanders (Week 16) — Wide left

• 52 yards vs. Washington Commanders (Week 16) — Wide left

• 42 yards vs. Washington Commanders (Week 18) — Wide right

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Yeah, Dean too. I covered this last week, slowpoke.

3 minutes ago, paco said:

After slamming a 30 mg drink this weekend I figured out that if you bleep out the word dick, the hook to that song works great for Cologaurd commercials

It's my **** in a box
My **** in a box babe
It's my **** in a box
Ooh, my **** in a box girl

Scat on with your bad self!

5 minutes ago, paco said:

Yeah, Dean too. I covered this last week, slowpoke.

Scroll up! (him not you obviously)

1 hour ago, BayAreaLennie said:

Starting his rookie year, Elliott has missed 8, 7, 6, 7, 3, 5, 3, 9 and 8 kicks in each of the years of his career. Part of why it feels like he has been so bad the past two seasons is he was so good the prior three. He has certainly not been as proficient the past two years, and has had some bad cold streaks, but he is only 31 years old and I just don't think the sky is falling.

But how many attempts were there each year? I feel like the past few years he's been trusted less and less and they don't even trot him out there as much.

2 hours ago, NOTW said:

Hollywood Brown on Makai Lemon: "He's been very engaged since he got here. Even when he can't be on the field he's engaged... you know coming over talking to everyone, asking what they're seeing, he's very engaged. I know when he's ready to take the field he'll be ready to go."

Great maybe he could be engaged on keeping his legs in shape

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

What is Nick's job now during the game? NFL just allowed him to give away 50% of his responsibilities on gameday

4 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

That's six. Barkley, Coop, Baun, Q, Hurts, and now Carter. Will Lane show up next?

BTW, the average should be 3 players per team.

The list is a joke anyways and has zero creditability

No reason we should have anyone from the Offense on that list from 2025.

The NFL Top 100 is a popularity contest voted on by other players. People debate the rankings every year. Same as how the Pro Bowl is popularity and name recognition.

All Pro is more impressive.

30 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

I'll be honest, I just don't think being able to hit a reliable 60 yard field goal will ever mean that much to me, get an offense that doesn't stall in your own half in a two minute drill so you're not relying on making stupid long field goals at the half.

I agree that's low on my list here as well for expectations out of my kicker. But he's slipping at 40 & 50 as well. Though, it does make me jelly that Aubrey hit three 60 yarders last year. I think Jake is just very limited at this point and can easily cost you a game. Missed extra point in 49ers playoff game proved costly with potential options at the end of the game. Down 4 instead of 3. Could have kicked a game tying FG there.

He just needs to be fundamentally sound with just the basic expectations of his job and he clearly isn't at this point. Dude may have lost his confidence, as Clay has mentioned with his body language etc. I've always heard excuses for this guy, whether it be having a new holder, a new snapper, etc. There's always the next Cameron Dicker out there to uncover, who just needs a chance. I think their eyes are not open on this one. I'd give him the first 4-6 games to see if this spiraling continues.

3 hours ago, NOTW said:

This will never get old...

1 hour ago, jojodancer said:

They like him in the playoffs and are seeing through that lense probably. But 3 out of his last 6 years are poor. Including missing extra points. And not having a kicker who is more consistent from 50 and out is quite the handicap, comparatively speaking with top NFL teams. You cant even trot him out there for a 60 yarder realistically. His 40-49 yard range even dipped last year (7-10 for 70%). That should be closer to 85%. Plenty of kickers lose it by their early 30s. The trend with him is just looking awful. I think he's cooked.

Just to be clear, the numbers I listed for number of missed kicks each year included both field goals and extra points -- it was total kicks missed.

I've seen kickers have off seasons at 30, but they're rarely completely cooked at that point. It is rare for kickers to be done before 34 or 35, and a surprising number last well past that. Of course, guys can lose it and/or go through slumps, possibly in some cases because of nagging injuries (especially in their 30s).

2 hours ago, paco said:

Haven't seen @Joe Ball in awhile

34 minutes ago, SinCityEaglesFan2 said:

This will never get old...

Yeah. I bet we have folks here in their 70s who still do it

26 minutes ago, BayAreaLennie said:

Just to be clear, the numbers I listed for number of missed kicks each year included both field goals and extra points -- it was total kicks missed.

I've seen kickers have off seasons at 30, but they're rarely completely cooked at that point. It is rare for kickers to be done before 34 or 35, and a surprising number last well past that. Of course, guys can lose it and/or go through slumps, possibly in some cases because of nagging injuries (especially in their 30s).

He could bounce back, but that's what we said last year. Trend is not your friend.

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

But how many attempts were there each year? I feel like the past few years he's been trusted less and less and they don't even trot him out there as much.

Two years ago was the most attempts he ever had (84: 36 FGA + 48 EP), and last year was 5th (69: 27 FGA + 42 EP), out of 9 years. The reduction last year I attribute to the offense being worse overall than any conscious lack of trust in him. (They probably kick FG less than most teams because they virtually always go for it on 4th and 1, and very often on 4th and 2.)

There are definitely better kickers than him in the league, and I'd be happier if the Eagles had one of them ... I'd certainly like to see him make a higher percentage of kicks, but he is just not my biggest concern. If he had made, say, just two more kicks each of the last two years, I don't think he would even be a point of discussion.

With Cooper and Moore flashing strongly in camp, I’ll throw out a trade, Hollywood Brown and a 5th for Jackson Powers Johnson. Raiders WRs are pretty weak, they could use a WR, they were rumored to be shopping JPJ last year. Would allow the Eagles to carry 5 WRs or 6 if they insist on keeping Wilson who they seem to like more than any of us.

30 minutes ago, BayAreaLennie said:

Two years ago was the most attempts he ever had (84: 36 FGA + 48 EP), and last year was 5th (69: 27 FGA + 42 EP), out of 9 years. The reduction last year I attribute to the offense being worse overall than any conscious lack of trust in him. (They probably kick FG less than most teams because they virtually always go for it on 4th and 1, and very often on 4th and 2.)

There are definitely better kickers than him in the league, and I'd be happier if the Eagles had one of them ... I'd certainly like to see him make a higher percentage of kicks, but he is just not my biggest concern. If he had made, say, just two more kicks each of the last two years, I don't think he would even be a point of discussion.

I think you are taking a very laid back approach here. 2 missed kicks is like 9 percent of his attempts last year. Could be 2 losses in theory. Probably needs more like 3/4 kicks made from being 85% or more which is the standard for a good kicker. Only a matter of time before he loses you a big game, like he did in 49ers game. I like winning on the margins. This is an easy and cheap way to do so. Just need a middle of the pack kicker and you have already improved from what you had. Ranked 32nd out of 36 kickers last year. Only 32 teams in the league. LOL

And there's no doubt that there's been games where Sirianni has shunned Elliott on attempting kicks from 50 and out. Sirianni has gotten trigger happy as well in going for it on 4th down. Think if he has a reliable kicker he would have more chances.