23 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Riq is settling into a new system, however last night he was pretty bad. We got the Riq that was benched multiple times and put on the trade block over the previous 2 seasons. First 2 games, I thought he was great.

Communication was broken last night in the secondary. The 3rd down before the failed 4th down the bears had, the issue wasn’t smith in coverage on a WR. The issue was Smith was the only defender in coverage on that side of the field from what I saw. If the S’s aren’t capable of communicating properly then Coop needs to go back there or Vic is going to have to use him more traditionally and give him the responsibility.

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

He had surgery on both his shoulders, if anything hes been injury prone, which is concerning. I think its more than a little banged up. Im not sure what's up with his wrist its been an issue since he was drafted. When hes healthy ish hes a beast problem is hes rarely health ish.

Not a good look for him

17 minutes ago, RLC said:

The 2025 draft class is looking shaky (although Kendell helps), but so far so good on Lemon. Every week he gets better. If Bell can play OT as a starter (we'll find out at some point this year), then we're not effed long-term.

Ehhhhhhhhhh….

Just now, ManuManu said:

Ehhhhhhhhhh….

Lemon may be OK... the problem is that if gets the WR3 treatment, why burn the resource.

3 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Yup, he looked bad and outside his comfort zone - he's on a completely different end of the spectrum from a strong safety, but we had to put him in the box and rely on him a lot to fill behind the front seven which he needs to become much better at. The tackling is very frustrating, and when he got flagged playing out of the slot that was very disappointing as that is an element of the game he should excel at.

He's not gling to magically get better, did considine become a better tackler???

I'm not sure why there are so many excuses made for makuba. He cant tackle, hes too small, he was just bouncing off guys last night and every night and he hasn't been any better in coverage as hes later to the ball than always late nate Allen.

A lot of times its quickly obvious who can or cant play in the NFL makuba is for me in the cant play in the NFL category.

Hes awful. But he'll stay out there because of where he was drafted same as Campbell whose been bad as well.

1st and 2nd round picks from that draft so far looking like hot garbage.

Really discouraging game. The defense as a whole is bad. What makes little sense to me is playing guys you’ve invested in but can’t perform. Dalton is the most glaring, but we don’t have other options for Campbell and Mukuba? It’s unreasonable to not play your best players, regardless of where they were drafted or how much money you have invested in them. That’s a sign of an organization that has some dysfunction.

Bad game by Hurts. Saw glimpses of more consistent run blocking. Play calling was a problem. Those WR screens as a whole need to be shelved. Dalton shouldn’t be on a NFL roster. Playing him there was criminal.

8 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I feel like most of the smoke on here is directed towards the defense. That shouldn’t be the case.

Really Nancy?

Mannion may have potential and some of the stuff they’ve done on offense has looked good, but the forced screens to Lemon are alarming and that play to Devonta before the half was alarming. Because these things are utter devoid of logic. And whenever coaches do things where there’s no rhyme or reason to it, I start to question their intelligence.

This whole nonsense is why I wanted Sirianni gone. Felt during the Niners game it was the end of an era and they squeezed as much out of the Sirianni fruit as they could get. Last season they were poorly coached all year, unprepared, mistake prone, no cohesion. This is 3 of the last 4 seasons now that they look this way.

If worst comes to worst and thus season spirals, I don’t think it would be the worst thing in the world honestly. We won a Super Bowl a couple years ago, Howie is great at retooling. You can only change so much when it comes to coaching without changing the coach at the top.

8 minutes ago, greend said:

That is true, but it's been 2 ugly wins against crap team and then an ugly loss against a back up qb. In a row.

One of those crap teams we beat just beat the defending SB champs. Crazy things happen in the league. We should've won this game, but didn't.

5 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Lemon may be OK... the problem is that if gets the WR3 treatment, why burn the resource.

I thought he looked good last night FWIW, but he’s doesn’t look like a first-round pick, and certainly not one that we traded up for.

10 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

But players called him an evil genius!

Well 1 out of 2 isn't bad.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

Mannion may have potential and some of the stuff they’ve done on offense has looked good, but the forced screens to Lemon are alarming and that play to Devonta before the half was alarming. Because these things are utter devoid of logic. And whenever coaches do things where there’s no rhyme or reason to it, I start to question their intelligence.

This whole nonsense is why I wanted Sirianni gone. Felt during the Niners game it was the end of an era and they squeezed as much out of the Sirianni fruit as they could get. Last season they were poorly coached all year, unprepared, mistake prone, no cohesion. This is 3 of the last 4 seasons now that they look this way.

If worst comes to worst and thus season spirals, I don’t think it would be the worst thing in the world honestly. We won a Super Bowl a couple years ago, Howie is great at retooling. You can only change so much when it comes to coaching without changing the coach at the top.

Not excusing Hurts but you have frequent changes in play callers because you have a head coach whose offensive design and play calling are a mess. Although I’m convinced he’s generally an idiot offensively, he does offer enough that we’ve fielded a very successful team over his tenure. I don’t think he’s incompetent as a leader, but it’s tough not to think we’ve somewhat underachieved considering the talent we’ve had. That window is closing.

Alright here's to turning it around Sunday. I'm not so sure the Rams are as good as their reputation.

2 minutes ago, krzyroone07 said:

Not excusing Hurts but you have frequent changes in play callers because you have a head coach whose offensive design and play calling are a mess. Although I’m convinced he’s generally an idiot offensively, he does offer enough that we’ve fielded a very successful team over his tenure. I don’t think he’s incompetent as a leader, but it’s tough not to think we’ve somewhat underachieved considering the talent we’ve had. That window is closing.

I think he's been good as a leader, but I think that has worn out its welcome and the success we've had has been more due to Howie's rosters than anything else. It's why in the years Howie had great offseasons we've had amazing years and the years he hasn't there have been down years. Now we're seeing how good Sirianni looks as the talent declines and it's not looking great.

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

He's not gling to magically get better, did considine become a better tackler???

I'm not sure why there are so many excuses made for makuba. He cant tackle, hes too small, he was just bouncing off guys last night and every night and he hasn't been any better in coverage as hes later to the ball than always late nate Allen.

A lot of times its quickly obvious who can or cant play in the NFL makuba is for me in the cant play in the NFL category.

Hes awful. But he'll stay out there because of where he was drafted same as Campbell whose been bad as well.

1st and 2nd round picks from that draft so far looking like hot garbage.

If you are right, we'll see Moore and Trot Jr sooner or later. I don't think Vic will let the defense collapse, due to where guys were drafted.

How will things get better? That might have to do with the opponent. The Bears have a very good OL and a creative playcaller. They forced our defense to commit against the run and then did a very good job of working LB vs WR mismatches, rubs routes, insert motion, throwing under the zone, hot reads, etc. to give Keenum options to get the ball out relatively quickly. Basically, they have a lot of talent offensively an executed at a very high level.

The misery will continue today starting at 2pm

7 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Lemon may be OK... the problem is that if gets the WR3 treatment, why burn the resource.

I have little to no feel for what the overall scheme is on O. However, i do think one of the apparent things is as a whole the approach is distributing the ball much more than the past 4 years. Smith is clearly the focal point of the passing game, but not in the way of force funneling through AJ was in previous years.

We also went from high school level passing concepts last year to a scheme that seems dependent on a timing based system. The ball isn’t coming out on time or on rhythm. I used to give hurts prop for his pre snap abilities. Right now it looks like he doesn’t know what he’s seeing.

10 hours ago, Eriv20 said:

They had WRs running open. The problem is the qb wasn’t seeing them

Troy and Buck were mentioning that last night

10 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Remember that time you all thought running back the same offense minus AJ Brown with a new OC and a still older OL was going to net vast improvementTR?

We'd win because we removed the toxicity

10 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

DeJean is playing hurt. They've hinted as much. Been dealing with a calf and abdomen. I just hope he doesn't have a sports hernia because that won't heal without surgery.

Carter too. He still has the cast

7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I said something similar a couple pages back. You hired Mannion to run his offense. This is what he knows. It’s his background. this is the style you want to run as an organization. The issue is your head coach (who is an offensive coach), does not know this system. His background is not in this. So you’re trying to combine what he wants and his offense with this entirely new and different scheme/system. Hope is at some point in time, the meshing works and they figure it out.

There’s a chance it just doesn’t do that and it doesn’t co-exist. If it can’t then you have to make a decision. Do you wanna go forward with Sirianni. Which means likely going have to run his offense the best way that he knows how. Or if the Mannion/lafleur/mcvey/shanahan type offense is truly what you want then it likely means moving on from sirianni (not going into the hurts discussion as that’s an entirely different rabbit hole I am not going down right now)

People didn't want to believe the article but maybe it was right that he just doesn't like under center

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Troy and Buck were mentioning that last night

We'd win because we removed the toxicity

Carter too. He still has the cast

People didn't want to believe the article but maybe it was right that he just doesn't like under center

The under center PA game is looking rough because backside teams aren’t honoring the run as much and are attacking the QB instead. Our success rate is something like 25 percent on those plays and Hurts has been pressured a bunch.

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

If you are right, we'll see Moore and Trot Jr sooner or later. I don't think Vic will let the defense collapse, due to where guys were drafted.

How will things get better? That might have to do with the opponent. The Bears have a very good OL and a creative playcaller. They forced our defense to commit against the run and then did a very good job of working LB vs WR mismatches, rubs routes, insert motion, throwing under the zone, hot reads, etc. to give Keenum options to get the ball out relatively quickly. Basically, they have a lot of talent offensively an executed at a very high level.

How will things get better? Id bench makuba move dejean to safety and put more at nickel where hes been really good his whole career. Moore is best when at the LOS. Either way hes a much better tackle than makuba.

Id bench Campbell and put in trotter.

Campbell has all the talent in the world but his instincts and football iq is for crap. Put in Trotter who has a high iq doesnt take false steps and knows where to be.

Would also help if JC wasn't playing with a cast but thats what it is.

Two biggest problems to me on D are makuba first then campbell and theres guys on the bench can come in and play better bit they were drafted later so....

33 minutes ago, Godfather said:

We can go to @hputenis house and watch a scary movie instead. At least after the movie you'll leave satisfied

He is way too selfish in bed

This may be the weakest 3 game stretch the Eagles will play all season(given the Bears had a 3rd string QB) and they didn't look good in either game. Sure you can point to their record being 2-1, but that is not a good sign. I think the next two games could really get ugly. I don't think the Rams are as good as the hype but they're still better than the Eagles right now and the Jags are legitimately good. If they drop both it would be the first time this team fell under .500 since 2021.

34 minutes ago, greend said:

That is true, but it's been 2 ugly wins against crap team and then an ugly loss against a back up qb. In a row.

We knew there would be inconsistent offense in the first 4 games

Im more disappointed in the defense