24 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

Fred Johnson or the rookie?

I'd go rook. Let him learn on the job. If we were 4-0 or 3-1 and looking good, I'd say go with experience, but I don't want to put Fred Johnson in just to try and force a 7 or 9 win season.

I don’t even think this relates that much to some dire situation that most people do.

Lane was probably done in the offseason. He probably wanted to end it there. It wouldn’t surprise me if part of the convincing him to come back was for him to get away from the team and to clear his head. It didn’t work.

Is it the best timing to walk away in July/August for the team? No, clearly not. But I also don’t think the Eagles or Howie were blindsided today either

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Gave up 15.8% pressure rate. But I got imagine he also didn’t get many reps in practice this week so that will probably go down considering he’s gonna get all the reps.

From what I saw they didn't give him any help either which is just bad coaching.

Just now, EagleJoe8 said:

I'd go rook. Let him learn on the job. If we were 4-0 or 3-1 and looking good, I'd say go with experience, but I don't want to put Fred Johnson in just to try and force a 7 or 9 win season.

Bell is the future. Fred is not

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

You think Lane retires if we’re 4-0 and won every game by 10+ points? I’m not sure

And would be if Hurts didn't blow two games. Thanks, Jalen. You made our HOF RT retire.

Before anyone grabs a pitchfork - I'm joking

Lane was on the fence before the season and was calling it quits either way. Like the rest of us - he probably considered what's going on in his personal life and watched this dumpster fire of a team. Unlike the rest of us - he has the money to walk away whenever he wants whether we like it or not.

It doesn't bother me that he made the decision. It would've bothered me if we were on the doorstep of the Superbowl. That's fair. Walking away from this trash heap a couple of months earlier than originally planned? Meh.

He's going down as the best RT in franchise history and a 2x SB winner. It's going to be strange not seeing him out there ever again, but we always have the past 14 years, some dog masks and trashing the Patriots culture to look back on.

Cheers, Lane. Hope you and yours are well

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

BINGO. Having Reid and Mahomes alone will always keep them relevant and a couple of good moves away from being a contender. The next coaching hire and QB have got to be the right guys and lets face it it's absolutely time for a new direction with both spots.

Yup. Imo i said 2026 should be the demarcation line for sirianni and hurts. Can like or hate them, but this year would reveal what direction we should go. Frankly i think sirianni and hurts are both gone by 2028 unless we completely turn it around. Tbh i think hurts is here for 2027 simply cause contractually it’s easier to move on in 2028

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

From what I saw they didn't give him any help either which is just bad coaching.

Not shocking on the bad coaching part. Frankly think their OL coach sucks which is what exactly Vikings fans complained about.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t even think this relates that much to some dire situation that most people do.

Lane was probably done in the offseason. He probably wanted to end it there. It wouldn’t surprise me if part of the convincing him to come back was for him to get away from the team and to clear his head. It didn’t work.

Is it the best timing to walk away in July/August for the team? No, clearly not. But I also don’t think the Eagles or Howie were blindsided today either

It's all speculation but I tend to agree. I think he was checked out mentally and ready to retire and he didn't want to go out the way things ended last year and then came back and realized what a crap show this team is right now and said "I'm good." I could be wrong and maybe things took a drastically bad turn recently with his parents poor health but I doubt it.

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Chiefs also trade away guys like mcduffie to get capital. People don’t want to hear this but that would be like cooper dejean getting dealt for picks. They also have mahomes as a constant with Reid. No offense to hurts and sirianni they aren’t Reid and mahomes

Would you trade Coop and sign Riq with the money?

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Chiefs also trade away guys like mcduffie to get capital. People don’t want to hear this but that would be like cooper dejean getting dealt for picks. They also have mahomes as a constant with Reid. No offense to hurts and sirianni they aren’t Reid and mahomes

I'm not interested in fully stripping this down. I'm not quite sure yet who is on that list. Don't care for Sirianni, so I'm good there. But salary cap constraints are going to have a large impact here in the right method. Full strip down runs the risk of many years of losing. Hesitant there.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Would you trade Coop and sign Riq with the money?

F no

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. Imo i said 2026 should be the demarcation line for sirianni and hurts. Can like or hate them, but this year would reveal what direction we should go. Frankly i think sirianni and hurts are both gone by 2028 unless we completely turn it around. Tbh i think hurts is here for 2027 simply cause contractually it’s easier to move on in 2028

If this season continues on as it has so far I don't see him being back. I don't know the cap ramifications but Howie has shown time and time again he will eat a big cap hit to move on from someone and I just can't see bringing Hurts back as a "lame duck QB."

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Would you trade Coop and sign Riq with the money?

Hmmm probably not. I think woolen is a very up and down player. Dejean normally is very good. Plus gives you versatility. I rather draft a young outside corner than look for coop who can likely be a Swiss Army knife. That said you’d get much more for cooper dejean than woolen

Just now, jojodancer said:

I'm not interested in fully stripping this down like I'm not quite sure yet who is on that list. Don't care for Sirianni, so I'm good there. But salary cap constraints are going to have a large impact here in the right method to go. Full strip down runs the risk of many years of losing. Hesitant there.

They might not have a choice.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. Imo i said 2026 should be the demarcation line for sirianni and hurts. Can like or hate them, but this year would reveal what direction we should go. Frankly i think sirianni and hurts are both gone by 2028 unless we completely turn it around. Tbh i think hurts is here for 2027 simply cause contractually it’s easier to move on in 2028

You might be right, but if a QB they really like is available they might just pull the trigger earlier than expected with the expectation that they'll sit a year behind Hurts

10 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

The collateral damage here may be more than people think if you strip this down. Chiefs know how to retool on the fly. Howie needs to mimic that formula.

Having Mahomes helps…he’s made some pretty bad to average lines and receivers look real good.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Hmmm probably not. I think woolen is a very up and down player. Dejean normally is very good. Plus gives you versatility. I rather draft a young outside corner than look for coop who can likely be a Swiss Army knife. That said you’d get much more for cooper dejean than woolen

Needing to replace Coop, Rig, and get a safety and edge is a lot. Rolling the dice on a 1st just to replace him doesn't seem like it's enough.

As much as I hate to say this because I’m a big Moro guy, if everything keeps going south and there is zero intention to re-sign him in the offseason they may want to field some offers for him.

1 minute ago, jojodancer said:

I'm not interested in fully stripping this down. I'm not quite sure yet who is on that list. Don't care for Sirianni, so I'm good there. But salary cap constraints are going to have a large impact here in the right method. Full strip down runs the risk of many years of losing. Hesitant there.

Guys at this deadline are woolen, Nolan smith (they are going to choose between him and hunt. I’m guessing it’s hunt. If they didn’t sign and trade for Greenard probably keeping both), Ojomo and goedert. I’d actually say steen as league always looking for competent OL. Would’ve said Barkley but that contract makes it impossible and he may or may not be healthy by the deadline

2 minutes ago, Swoop said:

You might be right, but if a QB they really like is available they might just pull the trigger earlier than expected with the expectation that they'll sit a year behind Hurts

Oh i agree. I think if they flounder down the stretch they’ll wheel and deal to stock pile picks. That’s likely because they are bad but also putting those assets into acquiring the next QB whether this draft, 2028 draft or even trade market

If we sell at the deadline - Nolan, Baun, Ojomo, Riq, Ertz, Goedert could get a decent return.

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

As much as I hate to say this because I’m a big Moro guy, if everything keeps going south and there is zero intention to re-sign him in the offseason they may want to field some offers for him.

I’d agree but it would have to be a 3rd or better. Otherwise, I just take the comp pick

No one mentioned but baun has one year left on his deal after 2026. If healthy he’d fetch a big package. don’t know cap ramifications and i believe they restructured it. Need either @vikas83 or @LeanMeanGM to break that down

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t even think this relates that much to some dire situation that most people do.

Lane was probably done in the offseason. He probably wanted to end it there. It wouldn’t surprise me if part of the convincing him to come back was for him to get away from the team and to clear his head. It didn’t work.

Is it the best timing to walk away in July/August for the team? No, clearly not. But I also don’t think the Eagles or Howie were blindsided today either

Would have been nice to keep Williams on the team. If only to possibly develop into a swing T.

Hate losing lane but also intrigued to see how bell improves as the season continues