8 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I wouldn’t worry too much about it until the time comes.  Your Adsense revenue should increase and should be directly correlated to site traffic.   So although your hosting costs will increase, so should the Adsense revenue.  

It still might not be enough to cover all your costs but hopefully with the additional revenue from affiliate links and once more members use them, it should come pretty close.  

If not, you could always add some sort of "premium member” annual fee, etc. and those members would get access to exclusive material and wouldn’t see any ads, etc.  

I have to, worry about it now, though (not that it's a real 'worry', like if I was worried about my next meal or something like that). I can't let the time come and have nothing ready to go. I'd like to have at least a year in advance taken care of. I'd also like to have things running so that members don't have to do anything except read and post and payments aren't needed. 

At some point, I want to start working on building the boards YouTube channel. I'm not sure what kind of content can be put there to make people want to watch (content that won't bring the NFL down on us for copyright issues). But if I can do that and monetize the channel, and build it large enough, then that alone could fund the board and ads won't be needed here at all. 

 

13 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Thanks for all you do.  If we can make the ads apolitical, I would suggest we do so. I just don’t think we want to give an affiliation impression if we can.  Me, I chuckle at the wasted money.

 I think I get kicked off due to using Safari.  I think it is one of its safeguards.  It’s rare but it happens. 

Any possibility of an affiliation with Chewy?  A lot of us have pets and probably use them. 

I'll look into restricting political ads, but they're random and I don't know if I can restrict them. One minute you may get an ad from a political figure that you hate, the next refresh of the board may be one for your favorite political figure and the next may be for a Snickers bar. I would hope that everyone would understand that the ads are generated by Google and in no way reflect any kind of affiliation that the site (any site), may or may not have. 

I'll see if Chewy has affiliations and if they do, if they'll accept us. A lot of the non-Sports related sites that I've applied to, won't accept us because we don't 'fit' their idea of what they want their audience to be or who they think their customers might be. Even Dick's Sporting Goods rejected us... which to me, is a bit silly, since this is a sports related site. 

With regard to some of the sites that we don't have affiliations with though, there's Rakuten and some of those sites are listed with Rakuten. So for instance, if you sign up for Rakuten using our Rakuten affiliation link, the board will get $25 and you will get $10 once you've spent $25 (in qualifying purchases).

So, in doing that, say you spend $25 or more at Chewy (after signing up at Rakuten using our link) and you click the Chewy link on Rakten to get to Chewy's site. We get $25, you get $10 and you also get a 3% discount on your Chewy purchase (the discount varies from store to store).  

If 100 members do that (and actually spend the required/qualifying amount), the board gets $2,500.00 and a years worth of hosting is taken care of.

10 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

If you use "private browsing” on Safari it will kick you off every time.  I had it on private for about a week and it was driving me crazy; couldn’t figure out why I kept on having to log back in every time I visited the site. 

I'm a PC guy, so I don't know if this is true with non-PC computers, but I have my hosts file edited so that most ads never get to my browsers. Some still do, but the vast majority of ads just get zapped before they even get started. At least Google's ads, anyway. 

6 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I don't think Warner belongs in the HOF because outside of those 3 seasons he wasn't that great.  I think longevity should play a role in HOF.  I get that there are those generational talents  like Gale Sayers who deserve it but I even question Terrell Davis.  Is he HOF or was he just very good?  

Cox has made Pro Bowls sure but what has he done in the NFL that makes him an all-time great?  Nothing.  The Pro Bowl doesn't mean anything anymore so the number of Pro Bowls is irrelevant if you ask me.   Fletcher Cox isn't in that top tier of DT if you ask me.  He's a step down from guys like Aaron Donald but a step up from guys like Mike Daniels. Not HOF.

Cox is every bit the DT Donald is.   Slightly different style,  but they are 1 and 1A in the league.  The fact that Cox has excelled both in the 1 gap he was drafted to play and plays now, AND could dominate in the 2 gap system under Kelly, puts him ahead of Donald, who frankly is limited to only being a penetrating, 1 gap DT.

I'm not sure either are HoF worthy, but Cox is no way at a lower tier than Donald.

5 hours ago, Utebird said:

Yup. I think when it cones to DT in Cox era there are 3 different tiers.

Aaron donald tier 1 all by him self

Tier 2 fletcher cox all by himself

Tier 3 everyone else.

Though id put geno atkins at the top of tier 3.

Disagree, see above. 

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Cox is every bit the DT Donald is.   Slightly different style,  but they are 1 and 1A in the league.  The fact that Cox has excelled both in the 1 gap he was drafted to play and plays now, AND could dominate in the 2 gap system under Kelly, puts him ahead of Donald, who frankly is limited to only being a penetrating, 1 gap DT.

I'm not sure either are HoF worthy, but Cox is no way at a lower tier than Donald.

Cox is definitely worse than Aaron Donald. Donald is a 1st ballot HOFamer. He's the best iDL of the past 20 years. 
Cox is the 2nd best idL of the 2010s. That's a borderline HOFamer; he needs more impact seasons to get in.

29 minutes ago, Utebird said:

There is nothing " cool" about a noose.

A noose is notoriously know for 3 things, public hangings, suicide and lynching.

None of those 3 should be taken lightly and none should be happening in a nascar garage.

Zero reason to tie a noose as a pull rope on a garage, if one is doing it as fun or something cool than one has to wonder what else one considers fun or cool?

Just a bad look whether it was intentional or not or in or unintentionally ignorant.

Ok, I get where you are coming from, but there are a ton of people who like macabre or morose things. There are a ton of people who love watching documentaries about serial killers. There are goths who delight in things that would normally be considered scary or evil. Then there are those with just a dark sense of humor...appropriately named for the situation...gallows humor. Now, of course, when someone gets offended, the offensive thing should be removed, but let's not pretend like unless the intention was clear, i.e. it showed up just for that race after he was given the garage, that it's inherently offensive. I get it's a sensitive time, but there are a lot of people, those of us veterans chief among them, with what would be called questionable senses of humor.

31 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Cox is every bit the DT Donald is.   Slightly different style,  but they are 1 and 1A in the league.  The fact that Cox has excelled both in the 1 gap he was drafted to play and plays now, AND could dominate in the 2 gap system under Kelly, puts him ahead of Donald, who frankly is limited to only being a penetrating, 1 gap DT.

I'm not sure either are HoF worthy, but Cox is no way at a lower tier than Donald.

For All the flack davis gets as a DC he put Cox in position to excel.

He had his 2nd best sack season playing DE in a 34 defense.

Ive always wondered why schwartz doesnt line cox up at DE and let him rush the passer from there.

Hes too big strong for most OT and has a quick first step that would give them trouble. If one doubles him with a TE thats a win for cox, chip him with a RB win for cox, combo block him with a tackle guard opens up the inside for single blocked DTs. 

I think donald gets more recognition because of the sacks and the tackles for loss, hes not going to dominate an OL with brute strength like cox but rather just out quick them. Cox is quick for his size but not aaron donald quick.

Two different players both whom present alot of different problems for offenses.

Wish Schwartz would move cox around more, instead if having him line up and crash into interior double teams all game.

Hopefully hargrave can take off some of the attention.

43 minutes ago, Utebird said:

There is nothing " cool" about a noose.

A noose is notoriously known for 3 things, public hangings, suicide and lynching.

None of those 3 should be taken lightly and none should be happening in a nascar garage.

Zero reason to tie a noose as a pull rope on a garage, if one is doing it as fun or something cool than one has to wonder what else one considers fun or cool?

Just a bad look whether it was intentional or not or in or unintentionally ignorant.

It's a black humor sort of thing, like skull and crossbones. In other contexts it's harmless, public hangings were the entertainment of their day, and some NASCAR fans go to watch the crashes, so no wonder crews might have a jaundiced sense of humor.  This sort of humor is normal in many high risk professions, and NASCAR crew work, as well as driving, isn't exactly the same as office work.

https://racingnews.co/2019/02/26/nascar-crew-member-suffers-injuries-following-pit-road-accident-at-atlanta-motor-speedway/

Now given NASCAR's history with the South, it probably wasn't prudent, but I doubt the crew member who did it thought deeply, just that if you're gonna put a pull on the rope, he wanted to have fun with it - don't have to get PC about it.

Just now, Utebird said:

For All the flack davis gets as a DC he put Cox in position to excel.

He had his 3nd best sack season playing DE in a 34 defense.

Ive always wondered why schwartz doesnt line cox up at DE and let him rush the passer from there.

Hes too big strong for most OT and has a quick first step that would give them trouble. If one doubles him with a TE thats a win for cox, chip him with a RB win for cox, combo block him with a tackle guard opens up the inside for single blocked DTs. 

I think donald gets more recognition because of the sacks and the tackles for loss, hes not going to dominate an OL with brute strength like cox but rather just out quick them. Cox is quick for his size but not aaron donald quick.

Two different players both whom present alot of different problems for offenses.

Wish Schwartz would move cox around more, instead if having him line up and crash into interior double teams all game.

Hopefully hargrave can take off some of the attention.

He excelled in spite of Davis, not because of him.  He averaged 5.5 sacks per season under Davis, which coincidentally is the same as he had as a rookie (in a 1 gap), and is the least number of sacks he's had in any given year, other than an injury riddled 2019.  

15 minutes ago, twistr said:

Ok, I get where you are coming from, but there are a ton of people who like macabre or morose things. There are a ton of people who love watching documentaries about serial killers. There are goths who delight in things that would normally be considered scary or evil. Then there are those with just a dark sense of humor...appropriately named for the situation...gallows humor. Now, of course, when someone gets offended, the offensive thing should be removed, but let's not pretend like unless the intention was clear, i.e. it showed up just for that race after he was given the garage, that it's inherently offensive. I get it's a sensitive time, but there are a lot of people, those of us veterans chief among them, with what would be called questionable senses of humor.

I get that, i love shows about serial killers and can haveva darker sense of humor and its impossible to know what the intent was behind the noose. Not sure who ever did is going to come out either way and say what his motivation was, nor do i think the public would be satisfied with whatever his answer would be.

Like i said it unfortunate it was discovered when it was and unfortunate it happened at all no matter the intent was innocent or not its a bad look.

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

It's a black humor sort of thing, like skull and crossbones. In other contexts it's harmless, public hangings were the entertainment of their day, and some NASCAR fans go to watch the crashes, so no wonder crews might have a jaundiced sense of humor.  This sort of humor is normal in many high risk professions, and NASCAR crew work, as well as driving, isn't exactly the same as office work.

https://racingnews.co/2019/02/26/nascar-crew-member-suffers-injuries-following-pit-road-accident-at-atlanta-motor-speedway/

Now given NASCAR's history with the South, it probably wasn't prudent, but I doubt the crew member who did it thought deeply, just that if you're gonna put a pull on the rope, he wanted to have fun with it - don't have to get PC about it.

id assume most who watch nascar dont think deeply about much other than what kind of beer theyre drinking😉

50 minutes ago, Utebird said:

There is nothing " cool" about a noose.

A noose is notoriously known for 3 things, public hangings, suicide and lynching.

None of those 3 should be taken lightly and none should be happening in a nascar garage.

Zero reason to tie a noose as a pull rope on a garage, if one is doing it as fun or something cool than one has to wonder what else one considers fun or cool?

Just a bad look whether it was intentional or not or in or unintentionally ignorant.

it wasn't a noose , it was a tied handle to pull open the garage door that has been there for almost a year and some of the other doors were the same. bubba smollett just ran with the moment cause he can't get attention on the track by running up front. this puts a bad spin on real acts of racism , if america was such a racist country why run fake racist stories..

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

id assume most who watch nascar dont think deeply about much other than what kind of beer theyre drinking😉

You just like to make statements that are highly offensive, yet don't seem to recognize that they are, don't you?  Maybe you should think a little more deeply about the things that you decide to post.

33 minutes ago, RLC said:

Cox is definitely worse than Aaron Donald. Donald is a 1st ballot HOFamer. He's the best iDL of the past 20 years. 
Cox is the 2nd best idL of the 2010s. That's a borderline HOFamer; he needs more impact seasons to get in.

Donald should be the top guy in the HOF of overratedness. He is maybe the best pass rushing DT ever. And, also one dimensional. A complete liability in the run game. Hes not even the best DT in the game right now let alone in the past 20 years. 

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He excelled in spite of Davis, not because of him.  He averaged 5.5 sacks per season under Davis, which coincidentally is the same as he had as a rookie (in a 1 gap), and is the least number of sacks he's had in any given year, other than an injury riddled 2019.  

Hes ave. 5.5 under schwartz as well so...

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Hes ave. 5.5 under schwartz as well so...

6.5 actually.   

9 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

it wasn't a noose , it was a tied handle to pull open the garage door that has been there for almost a year and some of the other doors were the same. bubba smollett just ran with the moment cause he can't get attention on the track by running up front. this puts a bad spin on real acts of racism , if america was such a racist country why run fake racist stories..

At least from the picture it was a noose, it was used as a pull handle, but normally people don't go to the lengths of a noose type knot for a pull handle.

I'm sure at the time it was funny, and probably joked with drivers about alternative uses if he came in last, and so forth.

Just one of those strange coincidences that Wallace was assigned that bay, and of course the crew member would have noticed it immediately, given the context of Wallace's campaign to ban the Confederate flag and that most pull handles aren't noose type knots.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

If you use "private browsing” on Safari it will kick you off every time.  I had it on private for about a week and it was driving me crazy; couldn’t figure out why I kept on having to log back in every time I visited the site. 

That’s it. I use private browsing and Apple’s version seems to be more realistically private than Google Chrome’s. 

5 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

it wasn't a noose , it was a tied handle to pull open the garage door that has been there for almost a year and some of the other doors were the same. bubba smollett just ran with the moment cause he can't get attention on the track by running up front. this puts a bad spin on real acts of racism , if america was such a racist country why run fake racist stories..

Ive seen the pics. Its a noose. Plenty of other knots one can use as a garage pull, my whole family is mechanics, my brother works in a garage with a gut who races modified at the local track and ive never seen a noose used asca garage pull.

Its a noose plain and simple, one can argue the intentions behind using a noose as a garage pull but to argue its just a garage pull one is choosing to see what fits ones narrative.

The noose has a lot of negative connotations historically whether those connotations were on purpose or not or out of ignorance to those connotations doesnt excuse that its clearly a noose. A noose used as a garage pull is still a noose. Its a noose functioning as a garage pull. Whether or not it had any other implied intentions is unknown.

Just now, vaeagle2 said:

it wasn't a noose , it was a tied handle to pull open the garage door that has been there for almost a year and some of the other doors were the same. bubba smollett just ran with the moment cause he can't get attention on the track by running up front. this puts a bad spin on real acts of racism , if america was such a racist country why run fake racist stories..

This is an ignorant and ridiculous comment. From denying that it was a noose...regardless of it's intended function it was tied as a noose...to using Jussie Smollett, whom actively FAKED his own event, allegedly, which has no correlation and has not even been accused in this situation other than by the ignorant fringe, especially since he wasn't even the one who made the accusation to begin with. This was a plain and simple mistake and Wallace plainly admitted this in posts after investigation. It doesn't put a bad spin on "real acts of racism", if anything it makes people more aware of how things they see can be taken differently by people with a different life experience. Smollet's situation did that, but if you can't see the difference between the two situations, then I and no one else can help you.

As to why they ran the story, there's two parts to that answer. 1. Regardless of current state of NASCAR's affairs, there is a long history of racially insensitive offenses with the NASCAR demographic, see Confederate Flag. 2. 24 Hour news cycle and need for viewers, see click bait.

 

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

At least from the picture it was a noose, it was used as a pull handle, but normally people don't go to the lengths of a noose type knot for a pull handle.

I'm sure at the time it was funny, and probably joked with drivers about alternative uses if he came in last, and so forth.

Just one of those strange coincidences that Wallace was assigned that bay, and of course the crew member would have noticed it immediately, given the context of Wallace's campaign to ban the Confederate flag and that most pull handles aren't noose type knots.

a noose is made to slip and tighten , this was a tied knot and security cameras proved it wasn't just put there , was there oct. 2019 and nobody would have known he was going to have that pit last week then.

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Ive seen the pics. Its a noose. Plenty of other knots one can use as a garage pull, my whole family is mechanics, my brother works in a garage with a gut who races modified at the local track and ive never seen a noose used asca garage pull.

Its a noose plain and simple, one can argue the intentions behind using a noose as a garage pull but to argue its just a garage pull one is choosing to see what fits ones narrative.

The noose has a lot of negative connotations historically whether those connotations were on purpose or not or out of ignorance to those connotations doesnt excuse that its clearly a noose. A noose used as a garage pull is still a noose. Its a noose functioning as a garage pull. Whether or not it had any other implied intentions is unknown.

reading to much in buddy

1 minute ago, twistr said:

This is an ignorant and ridiculous comment. From denying that it was a noose...regardless of it's intended function it was tied as a noose...to using Jussie Smollett, whom actively FAKED his own event, allegedly, which has no correlation and has not even been accused in this situation other than by the ignorant fringe, especially since he wasn't even the one who made the accusation to begin with. This was a plain and simple mistake and Wallace plainly admitted this in posts after investigation. It doesn't put a bad spin on "real acts of racism", if anything it makes people more aware of how things they see can be taken differently by people with a different life experience. Smollet's situation did that, but if you can't see the difference between the two situations, then I and no one else can help you.

As to why they ran the story, there's two parts to that answer. 1. Regardless of current state of NASCAR's affairs, there is a long history of racially insensitive offenses with the NASCAR demographic, see Confederate Flag. 2. 24 Hour news cycle and need for viewers, see click bait.

 

you want to racism , so that's what you see your ignorant sally

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

6.5 actually.   

My mathing is no good😉 but 1 more sack / season isnt much. Its not nothing. Having said that Davis moved Cox around from LE to RE and even DT sometimes.

Where as schwartz i think too often just uses him to eat up doubles.

Cox has even mentioned this on more than one occasion. I remember after a loss to the skins he talked about being frustrated doing the same thing play after play just running into doubles snap after snap.

Seems the DL and schwartz front scheme is pretty vanilla i think cox could be more effective if he were moved around more like buddy did with reggie.

 

Just now, vaeagle2 said:

you want to racism , so that's what you see your ignorant sally

funny, I didn't say anything about it being racist...now go away troll.

Just now, twistr said:

funny, I didn't say anything about it being racist...now go away troll.

sure sally , i'll let you keep playing victim game