5 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

a noose is made to slip and tighten , this was a tied knot and security cameras proved it wasn't just put there , was there oct. 2019 and nobody would have known he was going to have that pit last week then.

A noose knot works like a taught line knot.  You can adjust them but they don’t slip unless forced.  Stupid choice for a pull.  

Oh damn. 

That's exactly the type of content that shouldn't be in here and should be moved to CVON. I am sorry for engaging at all.

Just now, BigEFly said:

A noose knot works like a taught line knot.  You can adjust them but they don’t slip unless forced.  Stupid choice for a pull.  

15 fbi agents said it wasn't , so i'll lean that way

12 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

a noose is made to slip and tighten , this was a tied knot and security cameras proved it wasn't just put there , was there oct. 2019 and nobody would have known he was going to have that pit last week then.

reading to much in buddy

I think you are trying to justify it without knowing the intent.

I dont know the intent all i know is its an obvious noose and whether its intent was as a joke or fun or as a racist statement who knows but i know  during todays climate its a bad look.

There a dozen different knots one can use as a garage pull and thats the last id ever use. Is a noose a strong functional knot? Absolutely but who knows how to tie a noose??? I was never taught the noose in boy scouts because we had zero use for one. Which begs the question again who knows how to tie a noose and for what purpose.

Either way its a bad look in todays climate.

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

I think you are trying to justify it without knowing the intent.

I dont know the intent all i know is its an obvious noose and whether its intent was as a joke or fun or as a racist statement who knows but i know its during todays climate its a bad look.

There a dozen different knots one can use as a garage pull and thats the last id ever use. Is a noose a strong functional knot? Absolutely but who knows how to tie a noose??? I was never taught the noose in boy scouts because we had zero use for one. Which begs the question again who knows how to tie a noose and for what purpose.

Either way its a bad look in todays climate.

look i agree about a noose being left for someone, but it was known to have been there atleast since oct 2019 , so i'm just saying that no one could have known then he was getting that stall last week, so he wasn't a target for some sicko. that's  me coming to my intent of the incident.

18 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

15 fbi agents said it wasn't , so i'll lean that way

Whether or not it was a functional noose meaning functional for hanging someone the way it is tied looks like a functional noose. I would see that lic and first reaction, say hey that looks like a garage pull or a fishermans knot.

Upon first glance any one would say that looks like a noose. Also sense when are fbi agents the authority on knots or to be trusted?

Go get 15 klansman or 15 hangman and ask them what they think kind of knot it is.

Whether or not its tied like a noose would be for hanging/lynching someone is beside the point as what matters is what its perceived as.

First glance it looks like a noose which is the last knot id tie unless i was hanging someone.

Like i said bad look.

2 hours ago, Desertbirds said:

Well, the US does not have a monopoly on morons. Here’s the the scene from Bournemouth, UK:

See when I claimed how the world is filled with morons, I was originally going to say the US is filled with morons but thought about it for a second.......nope its not just us.

4 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

look i agree about a noose being left for someone, but it was known to have been there atleast since oct 2019 , so i'm just saying that no one could have known then he was getting that stall last week, so he wasn't a target for some sicko. that's  me coming to my intent of the incident.

Totally agree. Unless the person who left it is some diabolical mastermind...

Which would be the perfect cover for an evil genius, red neck grease monkey by day diabolical evil super genius by night😄

Now we just need sharks with friggin lasers😉

15 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Oh damn. 

What site?  He talking about the EMB?  Oh ****, thems fighting words.

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Whether or not it was a functional noose meaning functional for hanging someone the way it is tied looks like a functional noose. I would see that lic and first reaction, say hey that looks like a garage pull or a fishermans knot.

Upon first glance any one would say that looks like a noose. Also sense when are fbi agents the authority on knots or to be trusted?

Go get 15 klansman or 15 hangman and ask them what they think kind of knot it is.

Whether or not its tied like a noose would be for hanging/lynching someone us beside the point as what matters us what its perceived as.

First glance it looks like a noose which is the last knot id tie unless i was hanging someone.

Like i said bad look.

My suggestion would be to stop engaging, he is obviously made up his mind that it was a publicity stunt and could not have any possible merit because his view is the only one that is reasonable or valid. There's no reason to engage with him on this topic.

Just now, twistr said:

My suggestion would be to stop engaging, he is obviously made up his mind that it was a publicity stunt and could not have any possible merit because his view is the only one that is reasonable or valid. There's no reason to engage with him on this topic.

He seems reasonable enough, just trying to figure it out like the rest of us.

Thanks for looking out though i appreciate it!👍

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Totally agree. Unless the person who left it is some diabolical mastermind...

Which would be the perfect cover for an evil genius, red neck grease monkey by day diabolical evil super genius by night😄

Now we just need sharks with friggin lasers😉

to tell you the truth i blame nascar and his garage crew , they get there well before the driver and if they had concerns over the rope it should have been taken care of before he got there  IMO. but GO EAGLES

3 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

What site?  He talking about the EMB?  Oh ****, thems fighting words.

We're the EMB and we don't care

17 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I think you are trying to justify it without knowing the intent.

I dont know the intent all i know is its an obvious noose and whether its intent was as a joke or fun or as a racist statement who knows but i know  during todays climate its a bad look.

There a dozen different knots one can use as a garage pull and thats the last id ever use. Is a noose a strong functional knot? Absolutely but who knows how to tie a noose??? I was never taught the noose in boy scouts because we had zero use for one. Which begs the question again who knows how to tie a noose and for what purpose.

Either way its a bad look in todays climate.

hmmm the argument of intent.... thats not an acceptable argument to make against Kaepernick kneeling and intentionally or not insulting veterans and disrespecting the flag though. 

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

He seems reasonable enough, just trying to figure it out like the rest of us.

Thanks for looking out though i appreciate it!👍

 i see he's in seattle , wonder if he's a chaz member tearing down their city

10 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

to tell you the truth i blame nascar and his garage crew , they get there well before the driver and if they had concerns over the rope it should have been taken care of before he got there  IMO. but GO EAGLES

You know i wondered the same thing, this cant be the first time this has been seen, why didnt someone say hey guys how about we use a different knot.

If i were a white driver and walked in that garage a year ago id say WTF thats a noose.

Which i think is part if the problem, why didnt somebody say something earlier.

Why did it take a black guy to say something for Nascar to say Ooops our bad😕

1 minute ago, vaeagle2 said:

 i see he's in seattle , wonder if he's a chaz member tearing down their city

case in point.

52 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

it wasn't a noose , it was a tied handle to pull open the garage door that has been there for almost a year and some of the other doors were the same. bubba smollett just ran with the moment cause he can't get attention on the track by running up front. this puts a bad spin on real acts of racism , if america was such a racist country why run fake racist stories..

1. They said it was literally the only one there tied like that.

2. Bubba Wallace didn't even report it, someone else did. His garage crew you just blamed who got their before him and took care of it.

22 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

hmmm the argument of intent.... thats not an acceptable argument to make against Kaepernick kneeling and intentionally or not insulting veterans and disrespecting the flag though. 

Kap made his intent known, he even discussed with a vet the most respectful way he thought he could do it. Now how one perceives kaps actions is up to you but his intent was and has been pretty well spelled out. If you are still unclear about the intent than im not sure what to tell you...get tested???

Who knows the intent of the noose, but its a noose functioning as a garage pull.

One can say then that is its intended use but who uses a noose as a garage pull. Its not a commonly taught or used knot except for a few specific functions, garage pull not being one of the more common.

Like i said its a bad look in todays climate.

i'm all love here my eagle brothers and sisters so i'm going to

10 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

 i see he's in seattle , wonder if he's a chaz member tearing down their city

I dont know what a chaz member is. If it has something to do with looting and rioting while i dont agree with either i try to understand the climate, environment that leads a person to feel they need to do that.

Not helpful to the cause of equality but understandable form of protest.

2 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

i'm all love here my eagle brothers and sisters so i'm going to

Ugggg i have two daughters and if i have to hear this song one more time i may tie a garage pull for myself😄

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Ugggg i have two daughters and if i have to hear this song one more time i may tie a garage pull for myself😄

have you made a video singing it with them?