RememberTheKoy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Godfather said: That below average qb can do what your femboy lover can't... win games with his arm, read a defense, go through his progressions. Should I keep going? He won a Super Bowl which very well might be something Hurts never does. But beyond that Nick Foles isn't a starting QB in the league for a reason. There's no consistency to his game and more times than not he is very below average. He's around a .500 career QB with wins/losses. Maybe Jalen Hurts also ends up being a journeyman backup QB getting random chances to start here and there. It's fully possible. But the original point that Bacarty was declaring was that it's an outlier for teams to win a Super Bowl with an average QB. Which is true but it's mostly an outlier at all to win a Super Bowl. Plenty of really good above average and very above average QBs never even win a Super Bowl or play in one. It's the overall team that matters. Either you have a championship team or you don't. That's why if you have a great team then having a QB with great intangibles that has a tendency to play well at the end of games and do or die situations at that point in games. And that's what Hurts provides. So the potential for Hurts with this team and also the potential for this team with Hurts is greatness. It's very possible this season will be very special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheKoy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said: Hurts is only that because of all the idiots that sunk money on him after the AJ Brown trade. He was 140/1 before the draft. I got my Hurts MVP bet down at +5100 odds on April 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphagrand Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, D-Shiznit said: Daniel Jeremiah on Will Levis: Not too crazy about the comp to be honest. Dak with a larger- than- wanted sprinkling of Taysom Hill mixed in. Jeremiah is bang on about the excessive running. Gotta get a conductor in to orchestrate this offense instead of another fiddle player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blackfish Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said: lol If Wilson figures out how to complete 8-10yd passes he should be comeback player of the year, but even Hurts has a better chance of becoming MVP, than Zach Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said: I got my Hurts MVP bet down at +5100 odds on April 3rd. Won’t even get a vote or be in the discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Eagle Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, downundermike said: Won’t even get a vote or be in the discussion While I agree, I’ve mindlessly thrown more money at dumber bets than a home run swing on +5100 odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphagrand Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said: While I agree, I’ve mindlessly thrown more money at dumber bets than a home run swing on +5100 odds. The last 9 NFL MVPs have all been QBs. I’d make a scatter-bet and put money down on Rodgers, Brady, Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert. I wouldn’t make a ton of money, but I’d be pretty confident one of them will come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndyTaker Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 9 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said: He won a Super Bowl which very well might be something Hurts never does. But beyond that Nick Foles isn't a starting QB in the league for a reason. There's no consistency to his game and more times than not he is very below average. He's around a .500 career QB with wins/losses. Maybe Jalen Hurts also ends up being a journeyman backup QB getting random chances to start here and there. It's fully possible. But the original point that Bacarty was declaring was that it's an outlier for teams to win a Super Bowl with an average QB. Which is true but it's mostly an outlier at all to win a Super Bowl. Plenty of really good above average and very above average QBs never even win a Super Bowl or play in one. It's the overall team that matters. Either you have a championship team or you don't. That's why if you have a great team then having a QB with great intangibles that has a tendency to play well at the end of games and do or die situations at that point in games. And that's what Hurts provides. So the potential for Hurts with this team and also the potential for this team with Hurts is greatness. It's very possible this season will be very special. The bold at the top is how I would describe Hurts lol. Jalen hardly has any great intangibles that show up on the field, and playing well at the end of games when the defense is letting you because they are up by 3 TDs...doesnt say potential for greatness. Its very possible this season will be a disaster for Hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCiggles Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 18 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said: Terrible place to lose him to. The Ringer is such low level content. The Ringer broke the Jerry Coangelo Twitter burner story. They have had fairly serious content and it's not a bunch of hack writers. They also cover pop culture and politics. I wonder if Sheil thinks it will let him move into things beyond just football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCiggles Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 12 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said: lol Zach Wilzon Sznnnnszz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCiggles Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 13 hours ago, D-Shiznit said: Daniel Jeremiah on Will Levis: Not too crazy about the comp to be honest. Levis seems like he has a stronger arm than Dak. I think the better comp for Levis is Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheKoy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, NCiggles said: The Ringer broke the Jerry Coangelo Twitter burner story. They have had fairly serious content and it's not a bunch of hack writers. They also cover pop culture and politics. I wonder if Sheil thinks it will let him move into things beyond just football. It's a very hacky site that is focused on low bar hacky pop culture writing. Place can't also help but interject its political beliefs in everything. It's predecessor Grantland had some actual great content but that's not at all what The Ringer is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, NCiggles said: The Ringer broke the Jerry Coangelo Twitter burner story. They have had fairly serious content and it's not a bunch of hack writers. They also cover pop culture and politics. I wonder if Sheil thinks it will let him move into things beyond just football. They must not be Hurts Squirts, so they are hacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphagrand Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, UndyTaker said: The bold at the top is how I would describe Hurts lol. Jalen hardly has any great intangibles that show up on the field, and playing well at the end of games when the defense is letting you because they are up by 3 TDs...doesnt say potential for greatness. Its very possible this season will be a disaster for Hurts. This. How many games did Hurts win late? Did the Eagles have very many comeback wins last season? The CAR game comes to mind, but that was a big ST play that turned momentum. I would argue Hurts hasn't shown that ability, yet. The defense last year didn't hold the fort well enough for comebacks but we will see this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchKing Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: This. How many games did Hurts win late? Did the Eagles have very many comeback wins last season? The CAR game comes to mind, but that was a big ST play that turned momentum. I would argue Hurts hasn't shown that ability, yet. The defense last year didn't hold the fort well enough for comebacks but we will see this year. The defense being better this year will put more pressure on Hurts as he faces less of that late game prevent D from the opposing teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: This. How many games did Hurts win late? Did the Eagles have very many comeback wins last season? The CAR game comes to mind, but that was a big ST play that turned momentum. I would argue Hurts hasn't shown that ability, yet. The defense last year didn't hold the fort well enough for comebacks but we will see this year. Yep, Carolina they only had to go 27 yards to score the go ahead TD. 49ers game was there for the taking, 3 straight punts in the second half, and scored the TD to make it 17-11with a minute left, so garbage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMeanGM Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Bengals alternate uniform is going to be all white. Could look pretty clean if they get the helmet right. I wonder when the Eagles are going to unveil their all black helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoEagle Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: There is no color that could make that Bengals helmet look good. I like their helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCiggles Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said: It's a very hacky site that is focused on low bar hacky pop culture writing. Place can't also help but interject its political beliefs in everything. It's predecessor Grantland had some actual great content but that's not at all what The Ringer is. Politics are injected everywhere now. 35 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Bengals alternate uniform is going to be all white. Could look pretty clean if they get the helmet right. I wonder when the Eagles are going to unveil their all black helmet. They look like zebras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said: I like their helmet. Best helmet in the nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMeanGM Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, NCiggles said: Politics are injected everywhere now. They look like zebras. WRONG. Zebras are black with white stripes, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NCiggles Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Doesn't make it right and shouldn't make it acceptable. I mean it depends on the relevance of the issue to the article. There are times where politics are an issue. I think the problem is when the journalist seems to sake a side vs. reporting on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheKoy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, NCiggles said: I mean it depends on the relevance of the issue to the article. There are times where politics are an issue. I think the problem is when the journalist seems to sake a side vs. reporting on it. The Ringer actively finds ways to interject politics into everything. There's nothing worse than people with snobby political views that view that their views are so important that the world must be smacked in the face with them at every opportunity those writers have. Writing about a TV show or movie? Find a way to tie in your political beliefs. Discussing a topic on sports? Find a way to criticize a player who expressed opposing political views than yours in the past even if it has nothing to do with the overall topic the writer is writing about. That's The Ringer formula along with the laziest formula articles they pump out. Grantland was a legitimate sports journalist site, it's been clear since it's launch that Bill Simmons has no intention of The Ringer being that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 35 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said: The Ringer actively finds ways to interject politics into everything. There's nothing worse than people with snobby political views that view that their views are so important that the world must be smacked in the face with them at every opportunity those writers have. Writing about a TV show or movie? Find a way to tie in your political beliefs. Discussing a topic on sports? Find a way to criticize a player who expressed opposing political views than yours in the past even if it has nothing to do with the overall topic the writer is writing about. That's The Ringer formula along with the laziest formula articles they pump out. Grantland was a legitimate sports journalist site, it's been clear since it's launch that Bill Simmons has no intention of The Ringer being that. Translation - The Ringer does not think Jalen Hurts will be MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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