June 4Jun 4 I don't see a scenario where we disappoint enough to fire Sirianni and retain Mannion. Who expects Mannion to be "the next guy?" If he does a great job with the offense, it will look good for Sirianni. If he doesn't, he either gets replaced like some of his predecessors or the Eagles consider cleaning house. I feel like some of the same people defending Jalen from the weird kind of hate he faces are directing that same weird hate toward Sirianni --- you know ... saying, "I can't wait until he's gone."
June 4Jun 4 People also have a belief that they can just draft a new QB as if that's a lock to be a great pick. Look at the list of QBs taken in the first 3 rounds of the draft since after they drafted Hurts (the 2020 class of course had Burrow, Herbert and Love and Tua as well). National football analysts have been talking for years now about the quality of QBs coming out of college. Look at the state of the NFL, the QB position isn't what it used to be. A lot of these guys have been benched or moved to other teams as well.2021Round 1 — Trevor LawrenceRound 1 — Zach WilsonRound 1 — Trey LanceRound 1 — Justin FieldsRound 1 — Mac JonesRound 2 — Kyle TraskRound 3 — Kellen MondRound 3 — Davis Mills2022Round 1 — Kenny PickettRound 3 — Desmond RidderRound 3 — Malik WillisRound 3 — Matt Corral2023Round 1 — Bryce YoungRound 1 — C.J. StroudRound 1 — Anthony RichardsonRound 2 — Will LevisRound 3 — Hendon Hooker2024Round 1 — Caleb WilliamsRound 1 — Jayden DanielsRound 1 — Drake MayeRound 1 — Michael Penix Jr.Round 1 — J.J. McCarthyRound 1 — Bo Nix
June 4Jun 4 5 hours ago, brkmsn said:I don't see a scenario where we disappoint enough to fire Sirianni and retain Mannion. Who expects Mannion to be "the next guy?" If he does a great job with the offense, it will look good for Sirianni. If he doesn't, he either gets replaced like some of his predecessors or the Eagles consider cleaning house.I feel like some of the same people defending Jalen from the weird kind of hate he faces are directing that same weird hate toward Sirianni --- you know ... saying, "I can't wait until he's gone."I don’t hate Nick, but it’s easier to replace a coach than a player, but anyone can be replaced as a whole. I’m just pointing out that the team moved from an offense he didn’t run. That’s an interesting development to me.
June 4Jun 4 8 hours ago, brkmsn said:I don't see a scenario where we disappoint enough to fire Sirianni and retain Mannion. Who expects Mannion to be "the next guy?" If he does a great job with the offense, it will look good for Sirianni. If he doesn't, he either gets replaced like some of his predecessors or the Eagles consider cleaning house.I feel like some of the same people defending Jalen from the weird kind of hate he faces are directing that same weird hate toward Sirianni --- you know ... saying, "I can't wait until he's gone."I don't hate the guy I just think there could be someone with a better philosophy that can get the most out of the players as well as call plays....a complete all around coach like AR eventually became....I think that is another reason AJ wanted out of here, he didn't respect Siri....
June 4Jun 4 1 hour ago, GeorgeM37 said:I don't hate the guy I just think there could be someone with a better philosophy that can get the most out of the players as well as call plays....a complete all around coach like AR eventually became....I think that is another reason AJ wanted out of here, he didn't respect Siri....There's no way for us to know if that is really true or not. We've had a few guys leave (some disgruntled) and none have, to date, suggested Sirianni was a problem or didn't have the players' respect. I get it ... Nick isn't perfect and he has done things that are weird or immature for a HC. Like any coach, though, he has to grow and learn from mistakes and failures. Sirianni isn't an innovative, concept style coach. He's a culture coach with an emphasis on competition and maximizing the strengths of the team. It actually works well to have OCs and DCs that are responsible for the respective results. Players are more likely to stay knowing the HC isn't going to be all new. So far all the quotes I've read from players seem to support Sirianni. So that's why he's here and why a CEO HC isn't such a bad thing. Even when the HC is responsible for an offensive system (like AR was), assistant coaches still get poached by other teams.
June 5Jun 5 3 hours ago, brkmsn said:There's no way for us to know if that is really true or not. We've had a few guys leave (some disgruntled) and none have, to date, suggested Sirianni was a problem or didn't have the players' respect.I get it ... Nick isn't perfect and he has done things that are weird or immature for a HC. Like any coach, though, he has to grow and learn from mistakes and failures. Sirianni isn't an innovative, concept style coach. He's a culture coach with an emphasis on competition and maximizing the strengths of the team. It actually works well to have OCs and DCs that are responsible for the respective results. Players are more likely to stay knowing the HC isn't going to be all new. So far all the quotes I've read from players seem to support Sirianni. So that's why he's here and why a CEO HC isn't such a bad thing. Even when the HC is responsible for an offensive system (like AR was), assistant coaches still get poached by other teams.3 hours ago, brkmsn said:There's no way for us to know if that is really true or not. We've had a few guys leave (some disgruntled) and none have, to date, suggested Sirianni was a problem or didn't have the players' respect.I get it ... Nick isn't perfect and he has done things that are weird or immature for a HC. Like any coach, though, he has to grow and learn from mistakes and failures. Sirianni isn't an innovative, concept style coach. He's a culture coach with an emphasis on competition and maximizing the strengths of the team. It actually works well to have OCs and DCs that are responsible for the respective results. Players are more likely to stay knowing the HC isn't going to be all new. So far all the quotes I've read from players seem to support Sirianni. So that's why he's here and why a CEO HC isn't such a bad thing. Even when the HC is responsible for an offensive system (like AR was), assistant coaches still get poached by other teams.3 hours ago, brkmsn said:There's no way for us to know if that is really true or not. We've had a few guys leave (some disgruntled) and none have, to date, suggested Sirianni was a problem or didn't have the players' respect.I get it ... Nick isn't perfect and he has done things that are weird or immature for a HC. Like any coach, though, he has to grow and learn from mistakes and failures. Sirianni isn't an innovative, concept style coach. He's a culture coach with an emphasis on competition and maximizing the strengths of the team. It actually works well to have OCs and DCs that are responsible for the respective results. Players are more likely to stay knowing the HC isn't going to be all new. So far all the quotes I've read from players seem to support Sirianni. So that's why he's here and why a CEO HC isn't such a bad thing. Even when the HC is responsible for an offensive system (like AR was), assistant coaches still get poached by other teams.This is true....we have no way of really knowing that....I don't hate him but do not particularly like him either....his sideline antics, getting into it with fans, etc....he seems to be a really immature dude that happens to coach a winning football franchise.....he is here until he is not....
June 5Jun 5 The problem with the Siri lickers is a complete and total failure of understanding reality.This is the scumbag who forced Patullo on the team and then refused to move on from him.Siri single-handedly destroyed the 2025 Eagles.Only this human garbage combo of Siri/Patullo could keep putting Calc out to lead block whiff over and over again.Siri was castrated after 2023. He was a joke.Fangio runs the D.Moore ran the 2024 offense.Howie gets the players.Lurie sets the culture.Big Dom keeps people in line.Siri basically yelled a lot at fans.He did not add to the culture in 2024, Saquon did that.He did not make Jalen professional. He always was.He did ZERO to motivate or reign in AJ Brown.Siri gets an F for 2023. He gets a Z-- for 2025. He is twice the joke he was in 2023.Your impotent rage against Hurts means nothing against us seeing that Siri is a joke.Barry Switzer was a grade Z moron in the NFL and he still won because everything else was in place.That is who Siri is. An idiot with everything else in place around him.This whole debate is fans who use their eyes and brains vs. drooling imbeciles.
June 5Jun 5 The 2022 Eagles offense could have been an all-time great squad.That pathetic moron kept shutting them down way too early week after week.We raged against it in the game day threads over and over again.AJ would have been OPYHurts would have been MVPDeVonta would have been in the pro bowl.Siri stopped all of that by being a complete and total idiot.He took time at a press conference to insult us for using our eyes to see that Gannon was a useless a-hole.Good QBs put up 130+ ratings on this D on repeat.He attacked us for it. He was a complete PoS.He was 100% wrong. Gannon was and is a complete joke.
June 6Jun 6 Manning had 3 TDs to 7 picks on his only legit still QB1 SB win. Odd how no one cries about defense carrying him.His RBs ran for 190 in that SB at 4.8 a pop.2 TDs to 1 pick on the other one when the D made Fashion Fool Newton afraid to go after a fumble.16 TDs to 13 picks in his 4 SB years.His D held teams under 20 in 8 of 9 games to get to those 4 SBs. Under 10 in 3 of them.Weird how only the guy you hate because yo are broken inside has this "a defense plays with him" loser crybaby complaint.Hurts had 8 TDs to 1 pick plus 10 rushing TDs in his 2 SB runs. He has 11 TDs 3 picks and 10 rushing TDs with a 6-4 record overall.Its hard to find lots of QBs better at this age. (through 27)Early Montana was 13 to 9 in his first 2 before Rice (age 28 for the 2nd). God tier older Montana was 19 to 1. Brees (8-0) was already 30 after 5 years of failure in San Diego.Aikman was 8-0 in his first incredible run but 5-3 the next then 4-1 at age 29. He did almost nothing in regular seasons.Mahomes was 26 to 7 in his first 3 but that was 5 to 6 in SBs and 22 to 1 vs the AFC.Rodgers 9-2 included an even match QB slop duel with Caleb Hanie until BJ Raji saved Green Bay.Allen was 5-5 in the playoffs through age 27 with great numbers 24 TDs 7 picks and 5 rushing TDsLamar is 3-5 in the playoffs through age 27 with 10 TDs 7 picks and 3 rushing TDs3-3 Marino had 13 TDs to 10 picks. He was humiliated in his SB. He sucked.2-2 Elway had 5 TDs 7 picks and 2 rushing TDs. He was humiliated in his SB.Turns out Jalen Hurts is not perfect, just HoF level elite.How will this NFL legend ever survive with out a WR1 who jogs in a straight line and quits on routes?He will thrive like he has for the last 10 years.
June 6Jun 6 Justin Herbert is a complete joke.0-3 in the playoffs with 2 TDs and 4 picks.He is the same age as Hurts.He is a 25 TDs a year dude the last 4. His stats years were 5 and 6 years ago.Hurts put up 138 TDs the last 4 years, 34 1/2 per year.Herbert is nothing compared to Hurts.Dak has 2 seasons of 10+ wins during Hurts' career.Burrow has 2 seasons of 10+ wins during Hurts' career.Goff has 2 seasons of 10+ wins during Hurts' career.Lawrence has 1 season of 10+ wins in 5 tries.Hurts has 4 in a row, including 2 with morons at OC with an idiot head coach.
June 7Jun 7 On 6/6/2026 at 12:00 AM, SkippyX said:Hurts has 4 in a row, including 2 with morons at OC with an idiot head coach.And Hurts had a great OLine.And a D that totally dominated in the SB.Or. did Hurts do it all by himself? The coaches didn't call plays or coach.
June 16Jun 16 Eagles need to pick up Texas Tech, formerly Cincinnati, QB Brendan Sorsby in the supplemental draft.We need a high caliber young QB in the wings.
June 24Jun 24 On 6/16/2026 at 3:29 PM, CouchKing said:Eagles need to pick up Texas Tech, formerly Cincinnati, QB Brendan Sorsby in the supplemental draft.We need a high caliber young QB in the wings.UPDATE:NFL says no supplemental draft for Sorsby.Jalen Hurts haters will need to focus their false worship on Tanner McKee, Andy Dalton, and Cole Peyton.
June 24Jun 24 4 minutes ago, CouchKing said:UPDATE:NFL says no supplemental draft for Sorsby.Jalen Hurts haters will need to focus their false worship on Tanner McKee, Andy Dalton, and Cole Peyton.If you choose to go that route, at least spell Payton correctly when you do.
August 17Aug 17 On 5/7/2026 at 7:54 AM, CouchKing said:When Hurts stinks it up this year.Book it. Game 1.Hurts won't play during preseason. He'll be rusty.I SAID I would be revisiting this thread once preseason starts and so here I am....however....I did not see the game.....Was he rusty? How did he play?
August 17Aug 17 3 hours ago, GeorgeM37 said:I SAID I would be revisiting this thread once preseason starts and so here I am....however....I did not see the game.....Was he rusty? How did he play?Hurts? He didn't play
August 28Aug 28 Interesting week or two with final cuts coming.Does Andy Dalton get cut or traded?Does Tanner McKee win QB2?Does Cole Payton make the roster? Is that how you spell his name?Game tonite at 8pm. Looking forward to seeing Payton? Peyton? Whatever his name is. The future QB1.Hurts won't play tonite, will remain rusty in Game 1, struggling in the new offense.Don't know why AJ Brown wanted to leave town, but this will impact Hurts. Hurts needs two #1 receivers.Hurts can't spread the ball around and can't find the open receiver.
August 28Aug 28 11 minutes ago, CouchKing said:Interesting week or two with final cuts coming.Does Andy Dalton get cut or traded?Does Tanner McKee win QB2?Does Cole Payton make the roster? Is that how you spell his name?Game tonite at 8pm. Looking forward to seeing Payton? Peyton? Whatever his name is. The future QB1.Hurts won't play tonite, will remain rusty in Game 1, struggling in the new offense.Don't know why AJ Brown wanted to leave town, but this will impact Hurts. Hurts needs two #1 receivers.Hurts can't spread the ball around and can't find the open receiver.Under Sirianni, the passing philosophy went through 3 people (Brown, Smith Goedert). That should be the biggest philosophical change in Mannion's version of this offense. Hurts actually spread the ball around pretty nicely as a rookie when he didn't have a "favorite target" (which is what Brown had become).
August 31Aug 31 On 6/4/2026 at 12:33 PM, NOTW said:People also have a belief that they can just draft a new QB as if that's a lock to be a great pick. Look at the list of QBs taken in the first 3 rounds of the draft since after they drafted Hurts (the 2020 class of course had Burrow, Herbert and Love and Tua as well). National football analysts have been talking for years now about the quality of QBs coming out of college. Look at the state of the NFL, the QB position isn't what it used to be. A lot of these guys have been benched or moved to other teams as well.2021Round 1 — Trevor LawrenceRound 1 — Zach WilsonRound 1 — Trey LanceRound 1 — Justin FieldsRound 1 — Mac JonesRound 2 — Kyle TraskRound 3 — Kellen MondRound 3 — Davis Mills2022Round 1 — Kenny PickettRound 3 — Desmond RidderRound 3 — Malik WillisRound 3 — Matt Corral2023Round 1 — Bryce YoungRound 1 — C.J. StroudRound 1 — Anthony RichardsonRound 2 — Will LevisRound 3 — Hendon Hooker2024Round 1 — Caleb WilliamsRound 1 — Jayden DanielsRound 1 — Drake MayeRound 1 — Michael Penix Jr.Round 1 — J.J. McCarthyRound 1 — Bo Nix2023 was particularly brutal
September 1Sep 1 Did you guys see the Jalen Hurts commercial for the steak place in Philly (Alpen Rose)?Good to see him getting paid. And, he's well fed. I was worried about him not eating properly. So many junk food options.
September 1Sep 1 Excerpts from the GQ articlehttps://www.gq.com/story/jalen-hurts-philadelphia-eagles?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhtwitter&utm_content=app.dashsocial.com/gq/library/media/715889678On AJ Brown:"Hurts has a vague answer to my questions about Brown—“You can’t replace the greatness that we have achieved and the presence and the success that he’s had on the field, but we’ve got to go to work”—and, when pressed a bit, a slightly more nuanced answer. "It’s a game where we’ve all got to have a shared mission,” he says, when I ask what happened that things got to the point where Brown reportedly wanted to be traded. "We all got to be in pursuit of the collective. And it’s not something I can speak on from his behalf, but I can tell you my focus has always been to pursue the mission.”Unsurprisingly, given the fact that the two men had once been close, much scrutiny had fallen on their relationship. Brown, in the interview he gave after being traded, said the two of them had grown apart. I ask Hurts if he feels the same way. He responds with a single-word answer: "Clearly.”On the ESPN article that criticized him:"I take ownership because it’s my job,” he says, about the claims made in the ESPN.com article. He doesn’t deny them, even as he makes it clear he’s accepting them mostly because he sees it as his duty to move forward, and to argue would be to go backward. "It’s my responsibility. My job, I’ve always saw it from a perspective of: Go out there and lead the team and find a way to win a game, most importantly. And so we’re going to be judged off of that. And I think accountability and ownership and responsibility, those are all important factors when you play the quarterback position. You have to have those qualities. You have to be able to own it.”On the quote "it's going to look how Jalen Hurts wants it to look" @Mike030270"A couple years ago, in 2024, Hurts gave a quote that has haunted him a bit since, and which has since been cited as a skeleton key, a rare moment of truth, from an athlete who doesn’t often reveal his own internal monologue. Asked about the sluggish offense then, he said: "It’s going to look how Jalen Hurts wants it to look.” Since then, this quote has been cited in arguments city-wide about Hurts, sometimes as proof that he is somehow uncoachable or at minimum very stubborn.I wondered if, given another chance, he might have wanted to say it differently, or not at all."I can see how that’s something that was taken literally,” Hurts says. "At the same time, I said what I said and there’s no retracting what I said.”But there is clarifying, I say.And so he clarifies, a bit. The idea there, he says, was that on a team that was always changing—a new offensive coordinator practically every year, new teammates, new schemes, and so on—he was the one factor that didn’t change. "I’ve always had to adjust to the change in the voice in my ear, the play caller, quarterback coach in the room, and those are the challenges that I’ve always embraced,” Hurts says. "And you get to a point where you see so much change going on around you, you see that you’re the constant. And that goes for a lot of my teammates as well.”On his attitude and personality:"Hurts attributes a lot of his personality, and his life in football, to his dad. "I saw a disciple of men, and I saw what it was like to lead. I saw what it was like to instill character and have integrity and represent something bigger than yourself. I saw what it was like to take care of other people’s kids. My father being the head coach, that’s something that comes with their duty. And so my perspective on it is a little bit different. At an early age, he held me to a very high standard, but he also pushed me.”Hurts has become famous, even by the elevated standards of the NFL, for a kind of stubborn determination to improve. He likes a difficult situation where the only way out is through. In high school, he got into powerlifting: "I got this weight on my back. Get the crap up, and figure it out.” His heroes are guys whose will to get better is unstinting and maybe even a bit pathological. Tom Brady. Peyton Manning. The aforementioned Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. "MJ, Kobe, they had great work ethic, had a great mentality,” Hurts says.Hurts mentioning Jordan in this moment reminds me of something I recently heard an Eagles beat writer say, which is that many of the criticisms of Hurts are unfair but one that has some legitimacy is that he doesn’t show a lot of vulnerability. This is something I’ve noticed too. Not at the podium before or after games. Certainly not during them. Again, who knows: The weirdest part of sports fandom is the way you psychologically analyze people you don’t know, will never meet. Except Hurts is right in front of me now, so I bring it up, this criticism that he doesn’t show much weakness or doubt, in a way that Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant were also famous for."On being an introvert and quiet leader:Here’s why I’m curious. Because I think the job of quarterback: inherently social job, right? Literal leader of men. Communicator. Do you ever feel the contradiction between that and what your job ended up being?"I think it’s evolved over time. Because when I was a younger player, when I was coming into college and starting as a freshman, it was a different time where it was very straightforward in earning the respect of the guys around you. You earned it by your actions. You earned it by what you prove to them and the respect that you earn. As you grow, there’s a mystique and an outside perspective or a narrative that’s built, and it’s not a lot of times built by the person himself, but by what other people project or interpret from that. And so my perspective, my approach, hasn’t necessarily differed in terms of what’s the priority, but I am mindful of how the things around me have changed.”Hurts says, basically, he lives by something Nick Saban, the former coach of Alabama, once told him, which was: "What you do speaks so loudly, I can’t hear what you say.”He continues: "Well, you say I’m an introvert. I say I’m about action. I’m about doing the things that are required to win. And so I think that’s to one’s interpretation, but you never go wrong doing a thing that can’t be denied.”I say sure, but on any team, in any workplace even, there are personal dynamics beyond winning and losing. People want to know what their boss thinks about them. They want to know where they stand with their coworkers. There’s got to be somebody on your team that’s like, "What does my quarterback think about me?”"Yeah,” says Hurts, because the answer to him is self-evident. The answer is: "Let’s win.”On his stoic nature and that fans can't tell what he thinks or feels coming off the field:"The thing is, you talk about vulnerability, and you talk about are you able to define who you are, what your passions are? The football field is one of the very few places I feel like I can be myself. But the raw emotions—I think I give you grace because competitively, the fire and the moment and the preparation and everything that you’ve done to get to this point, not many understand what is required of that. And it demands everything. And it demands even more when you experience failure, when you come up short of something and you have to humble yourself and find solutions, but first go to work and make sure you’re doing the right things. So when you’re in the process of a middle of a game, you’ve got a fine focus on what exactly you’re trying to do, and that’s my approach.”He says, basically, that he is unreadable because he is so internal, so entirely concerned with processing what he’s seeing and experiencing and solving, that there is no room for expression beyond that. What I’m seeing, he says, is a person taking seriously, at every moment, the long odds he had of making it, the difficulty of each step, the loneliness and intensity and sacrifice of what he’s had to do to get to where he is.Why do you think you feel most like yourself on a football field?"Because it’s what I love. It’s what I know. It’s what I come up around. It’s who I am. It’s who I’ve been groomed to be.”
September 2Sep 2 McNabb was the opposite of stoic. He was 1-5 in the 6 biggest games of his life with 7 TDs and 10 turnovers.
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