I don't think Hurts was very good today because we had so many 3 and outs.

I saw him scrambling, getting out of trouble and throwing the ball out of bounds.

I also saw Hurts throw 3 touchdowns and no INTs. I saw him run 7 times for 46 yards.

But, I also saw a lot of 3 and outs, not moving the ball.

Was it because the Commanders D was good with 3 sacks and 10 tackles for loss yards?

Commanders had 20 first downs to the Eagles 10 first downs. Commanders had the ball for 33+ minutes.

Hurts did not look like an MVP QB today.

He was decent, I'd give him a B

Some nice throws and picked up some key plays with his legs

He is still holding the ball a bit long for a west coast offense but it is only game 1

At this point people need to accept this is who Jalen is. Don’t expect 400 plus passing games, but what you will get is clutch plays when they’re needed. I’ll take that 200 yards passing line when it’s equalling wins.

I think he had a pretty good game today. One of the things I'd like to see him change is that when he has to leave the pocket and he rolls out, he just ends up throwing the ball away. I'd rather see him just use his feet to gain a few yards instead of whatever he has been doing. He did this all last year and it's always just a wasted down. I get that he's looking for somebody to throw to, but either nobody is aware, they can't find a way to help, or he just wants a bigger window to throw to in that situation. Just commit to running a bit earlier and maybe we'll pick up a few yards instead of nothing. He had some nice runs today --- maybe he could have had a couple more and extended a couple drives, giving the defense more rest.

The offense doesn't look a whole lot different than years past.

3 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

He was decent, I'd give him a B

Some nice throws and picked up some key plays with his legs

He is still holding the ball a bit long for a west coast offense but it is only game 1

B is probably a fair assessment. Some of his throws today were ridiculous, the dimes to Goedert, Wicks and Smith were perfect. He also did a pretty good job of extending some drives with his legs when they looked dead.

The miss to Smith on the sideline on 3rd down was a poor throw and the miscommunication with Goedert was probably the other key miss (although it looked like he expected Goedert to break out a bit further). The offensive line looked out of their depth a few times today and Barkley was poor pass blocking, it was telling when they brought Shipley in for the 2 minute offense.

They always look like ass through September due to not playing the starters in pre-season, but the scheme didn't look like it was helping matters early. They can't keep starting drives second and long due to runs being blown up in the backfield or stupid penalties. It is almost impossible to sustain drives when those sorts of mistakes keep happening.

3 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

I think he had a pretty good game today. One of the things I'd like to see him change is that when he has to leave the pocket and he rolls out, he just ends up throwing the ball away. I'd rather see him just use his feet to gain a few yards instead of whatever he has been doing. He did this all last year and it's always just a wasted down. I get that he's looking for somebody to throw to, but either nobody is aware, they can't find a way to help, or he just wants a bigger window to throw to in that situation. Just commit to running a bit earlier and maybe we'll pick up a few yards instead of nothing. He had some nice runs today --- maybe he could have had a couple more and extended a couple drives, giving the defense more rest.

The offense doesn't look a whole lot different than years past.

I'm okay with him throwing it away, I'd rather him not get hit trying to pick up a yard or two vs just getting rid of it. When he thought he could go he did and put the foot on the accelerator. He didn't do that as much last season. It feels like our WR's don't know what to do in a scramble drill which doesn't help. They need to go watch some tape of Rodgers and Adams who perfected the art.

Part of them getting under center more was to open up the run game and play action and both looked ineffective for the most part. Barkley is also losing his feet way to often. There were 3 or 4 times he could have picked up more yards and just slipped

A typical Hurts game, which isn’t bad but also isn’t great. Inefficient as a passer. Can’t really read the defense and locks onto first read too long and when he realizes that isn’t there, surveys the pass rush and doesn’t look down field then bails to the right and throws the ball away. When the first read is there, makes a great throw and has a 3 TD game. Also makes plays with his legs that are at must have points in the game.

Redskins are a hot mess, so the squeaker against a bad football team at home isn’t encouraging. Offense will have to play better going forward.

6 hours ago, Mat said:

I'm okay with him throwing it away, I'd rather him not get hit trying to pick up a yard or two vs just getting rid of it. When he thought he could go he did and put the foot on the accelerator. He didn't do that as much last season. It feels like our WR's don't know what to do in a scramble drill which doesn't help. They need to go watch some tape of Rodgers and Adams who perfected the art.

Part of them getting under center more was to open up the run game and play action and both looked ineffective for the most part. Barkley is also losing his feet way to often. There were 3 or 4 times he could have picked up more yards and just slipped

If there's one thing Jalen has proven is he's not made of glass. Dual threat QBs need to run or they aren't dual threat. As a fan, I don't live in perpetual fear that doing one thing "too much" = injury. It's not like when he runs, he turns into a moron like Scattebo, leading with his helmet and celebrating with poorly landed backflips. But going back to last season, most of our 3 and outs involve at least one of those plays where he has to bail from the pocket and throw the ball away.

It's not like it's always going to be his "fault" that that becomes the end result. But some of the time, it is because he isn't willing to pull the trigger. Aaron Rodgers has also made a career of placing those types of throws where the receiver may be the only guy with a chance to make the play, but at least there's a chance. Hurts is just choosing to ditch the ball safely where nobody can catch it (there is no chance for yards).

Looks like that other guy they all fawn over Justin Herbert is well on his way to getting another coach fired. 😂🤣😂

They need to make a throw footballs at target robots sport.

Herbert would be awesome.

NFL football? Not so much.

7 hours ago, VeeMak said:

A typical Hurts game, which isn’t bad but also isn’t great. Inefficient as a passer. Can’t really read the defense and locks onto first read too long and when he realizes that isn’t there, surveys the pass rush and doesn’t look down field then bails to the right and throws the ball away. When the first read is there, makes a great throw and has a 3 TD game. Also makes plays with his legs that are at must have points in the game.

Redskins are a hot mess, so the squeaker against a bad football team at home isn’t encouraging. Offense will have to play better going forward.

I don't think you guys know what "read a defense" means when you say it. It doesn't make any sense. If a QB gets to the line, diagnosis the defense, calls protections, adjusts the play, and then gets a TD. How is that not "reading a defense"? Its annoying when you guys say that because its wrong.

21 minutes ago, eephraim said:

I don't think you guys know what "read a defense" means when you say it. It doesn't make any sense. If a QB gets to the line, diagnosis the defense, calls protections, adjusts the play, and then gets a TD. How is that not "reading a defense"? Its annoying when you guys say that because its wrong.

He might have mean read progressions. Hurts in most situations is locked on one read and is known that one of his biggest weaknesses is working through progressions

Now due to this weakness, it is possible the coaching staff has limited his reads to 1 or 2 on each play. This could be why he holds the ball longer and in scramble mode

32 minutes ago, eephraim said:

I don't think you guys know what "read a defense" means when you say it. It doesn't make any sense. If a QB gets to the line, diagnosis the defense, calls protections, adjusts the play, and then gets a TD. How is that not "reading a defense"? Its annoying when you guys say that because its wrong.

Its an old truth that Hurts has corrected. I feel sometimes we forget that the qb doesnt have above the field pov like we do. I feel he had more command of the offense than the OC at times this game

5 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

He might have mean read progressions. Hurts in most situations is locked on one read and is known that one of his biggest weaknesses is working through progressions

Now due to this weakness, it is possible the coaching staff has limited his reads to 1 or 2 on each play. This could be why he holds the ball longer and in scramble mode

Did y’all ever consider that it’s not a case of this guy being unable to read defenses, rather it’s a case of Jalen being purposely conservative with the football? Not only that, but his conservative style of play is directly reflated to why he doesn’t commit a lot of turnovers? Also the fact that he doesn’t turn the ball over that much is the reason why he wins? So if you all get all those reads you want, and Jalen gets more aggressive, but that cost him to have bigger passing numbers, but causes more turnovers, and more losses would that make people happier? Seriously this idea that Jalen can’t read defenses is dumb. You think this guy played in the SEC and doesn’t know how to read a defense? I mean seriously a guy who’s been in the league going on seven years, every year he’s been the starter made the playoffs, been to the Super Bowl twice, and won once, was a SB MVP, but doesn’t know how to read a defense? I’ll tell you what. You can keep the clown with the stats who can read and throw to the whole field and I’ll keep winning with Jalen.

We're about to see what Hurts truly is as a QB. This team offensively is not elite. He'll have to make up the difference

Hurts is already on pace to outperform 2003 McNabb who had Thrash and Pinkston.

16 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Hurts is already on pace to outperform 2003 McNabb who had Thrash and Pinkston.

The team is on pace for an undefeated season!

It's 1 game chill.

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

The team is on pace for an undefeated season!

It's 1 game chill.

I’m just saying if you want a season to compare good quarterbacking and bad receiving… there you have it

9 hours ago, VeeMak said:

A typical Hurts game, which isn’t bad but also isn’t great. Inefficient as a passer. Can’t really read the defense and locks onto first read too long and when he realizes that isn’t there, surveys the pass rush and doesn’t look down field then bails to the right and throws the ball away. When the first read is there, makes a great throw and has a 3 TD game. Also makes plays with his legs that are at must have points in the game.

Redskins are a hot mess, so the squeaker against a bad football team at home isn’t encouraging. Offense will have to play better going forward.

Or, it may have been a squeaker against a good team.

If the Skins made that extra point and the missed field goal, it would've been a Skins win by 2, 26-22.

And if grandma had balls, she would have been granpa.

4 hours ago, eephraim said:

I don't think you guys know what "read a defense" means when you say it. It doesn't make any sense. If a QB gets to the line, diagnosis the defense, calls protections, adjusts the play, and then gets a TD. How is that not "reading a defense"? Its annoying when you guys say that because its wrong.

There is a difference between pre snap read and post snap read. The defense changes the picture post snap and QB’s have to make a diagnosis that may be (and often times is) different post snap. For example the defense may give you a pure cover 2 look but post snap they’re in a Saban 7 or a Cover 5. QB has to read the MOD, Cut, Stubbie, Bracket, or Dog on the man-match quickly at post snap to determine where to go with the ball.

It’s also annoying when people that truly don’t know the nuances of football post things like you did. Yes, it’s still "reading a defense”. It’s not just pre-snap reads.

He did both on Sunday.

A QB like Stafford would have lost the game by 10. (no wheels)

A QB like Herbert would have lost by 14+ (he just sucks at NFL football)

PHLY has some play breakdowns of disguised coverage that Hurts read during the play, diagnosed the holes in the D, and hit the open man.

But go ahead and continue to be Dunning Kruger level stupid.

So, Dickerson to IR and maybe Jurgens replaced. Jurgens hurt as well I assume, probably not near fully recovered.

This impacted the run game as well as putting pressure on Hurts, resulted in many 3 and outs.

This is some sort of coach and trainer failure by not recognizing inability to perform due to injury.

Plenty of practice time, but they didn't diagnose this? No physical testing by trainers to detect lack of strength and mobility?

No actual snaps in the preseason to reveal the truth of the matter?

This is coaching and GM malpractice to not know the team/players are not ready to go.

14 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

So, Dickerson to IR and maybe Jurgens replaced. Jurgens hurt as well I assume, probably not near fully recovered.

Have they said that about Jurgens? That he may be replaced?

11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Have they said that about Jurgens? That he may be replaced?

It was in an article that I read about 30 minutes ago related to Dickerson going to the IR. Can't find it again.

Eagles were not saying it. It was speculation in the article as though it was under consideration.

17 hours ago, SkippyX said:

He did both on Sunday.

A QB like Stafford would have lost the game by 10. (no wheels)

A QB like Herbert would have lost by 14+ (he just sucks at NFL football)

PHLY has some play breakdowns of disguised coverage that Hurts read during the play, diagnosed the holes in the D, and hit the open man.

But go ahead and continue to be Dunning Kruger level stupid.

Herbert sucks at football had me dying. 😂🤣😂