1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2022/consensus-mock-draft-2022

Consensus seems to have Hamilton and Stingley available at #10.

Move up to get either of them?  Which would you prefer?

Stingley. I don’t think the eagles would move up to grab a safety in the first round especially that high in the first. I could see them for a corner. Tony Pauline looks like he was accurate when reporting he had heard prior to the combine that he heard Hamilton would fall outside of the top 10 and potentially outside of the top 15 

3 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

Interesting thought/convo

 

Chiefs call you for #15 and #124 to go get the WR of their choice and send back #29 and 30. 

Do you take it? 

Hell yes I take that. 18- Wyatt, 29- Hill/Elam/Cine, 30- Ebikete/Mafe

3 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

I get the fascination with Strong especially in round 3ish, but If the plan is to go all in on a QB in 2023, then stick with it.

A half measure like Strong can lead to a lose/lose scenario: He shows enough flashes for you to punt on the 2023 QB class, but ultimately turns out to not be good enough soon after.

I agree. Either take a guy in R1 this year like Corral/Pickett if you truly think they can be the man in 2023 (hold a clipboard behind Minshew for all or most of 2022), or give Hurts the year and if/when he fails, push your chips in next year on a R1 talent in a better QB class. Strong is way overrated on this board. Or just wait for Caleb Williams

1 hour ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

I know it's fantasy, but I'd love to end up with Stingley or Gardner. This defense would be light years better if we could get a shutdown corner.

No shot at Gardner without a substantial move up. Stingley most likely gone, but has an outside chance to be sitting there at 15.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

You can invite Corral for a visit if you've got NO, PIT, and TEN drafting behind you and they need QB as well.  

Yep.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

 

I have a feeling he will be the pick at 15.  Which version of him do we get ??  The guy who was a stud as a freshman, or the guy who was not as good after that.

I'm an optimist, so I'll say the freshman.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Stingley. I don’t think the eagles would move up to grab a safety in the first round especially that high in the first. I could see them for a corner. Tony Pauline looks like he was accurate when reporting he had heard prior to the combine that he heard Hamilton would fall outside of the top 10 and potentially outside of the top 15 

A lot of quality linemen and now that WRs are becoming prohibitively expensive, getting good one on a rookie deal is invaluable.

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

A lot of quality linemen and now that WRs are becoming prohibitively expensive, getting good one on a rookie deal is invaluable.

If we are talking about Hamilton it was more he had heard from multiple teams he was going to eventually have to be moved to linebacker and apparently teams believed his range at the nfl level wouldn’t be as good so investing that high in a safety without ideal range made him drop (not me saying it but Pauline when talking about Hamilton in his interview). 

Personally I have said this for a while that I don’t think the defense is getting fixed in one off-season. I thought this was gonna take two drafts and two off-season for them to get it to where is really where they want it to be in terms of talent and potential going forward. The eagles aren’t competing for a SB next year. So the goal for defense is adding 3-4 pieces to that defense this offseason and then trying to replicate that next offseason. Which is why i don’t think it’s out of the question they take a defender at 15 and 18 but also could take a WR or OL at 15 or 18 and the other pick take a defensive player. Then use 2nd and 3rd rounders to add some defensive players. 

25 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Whoa. I heard Eagles don’t use those for smokescreens

Serious question: In what round do you consider Corral? IMO, If he’s around in the early 3rd it becomes interesting.

2 minutes ago, SB52 said:

Serious question: In what round do you consider Corral? IMO, If he’s around in the early 3rd it becomes interesting.

Booth has a better chance of dropping to the 2nd round than Corral does of sniffing the 3rd round.

3 minutes ago, SB52 said:

Serious question: In what round do you consider Corral? IMO, If he’s around in the early 3rd it becomes interesting.

I have Corral ranked as my QB1 for this draft class in terms of potential. Pickett is the more pro-ready guy, and Willis is a better athlete, but I think Corral's quick release, arm, and decisiveness mixed with his athleticism makes him the best prospect overall. There is not a snowball's chance in hell that he's around in the 3rd. If he is somehow miraculously there at 51, I'd hope they'd at least strongly consider it.

5 minutes ago, SB52 said:

Serious question: In what round do you consider Corral? IMO, If he’s around in the early 3rd it becomes interesting.

He's not making it past the 1st

2 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

He's not making it past the 1st

Completely agreed. As I said above, if he is somehow miraculously there at 51, I pull the trigger. Extreme value pick there. After his resume and pro day, no way he slides to R3. He could easily be the pick for the Panthers, Falcons, Seahawks, Redskins, Steelers, Saints in R1.

15 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

You mean like the JJAW-to-H-back plan?

For all intents and purposes, last year JJAW was positioned many times where one would put an Hback and blocked like one too.  You certainly can’t call what he did last year as the role of a wide receiver. 

9 minutes ago, SB52 said:

Serious question: In what round do you consider Corral? IMO, If he’s around in the early 3rd it becomes interesting.

If you want to consider him, it would have to be at 15 or 19, unless you package 51 to move back up in the first.

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

For all intents and purposes, last year JJAW was positioned many times where one would put an Hback and blocked like one too.  You certainly can’t call what he did last year as the role of a wide receiver. 

He also makes a great quality H20 on the sideline for players with an actual purpose. I call what he did last year the role of a player who should've been cut after preseason.

I would rather draft DE, WR, CB, S over a DT in first two days. Actually there's a big drop-off at DT so I wouldn't be upset if they skipped it entirely. Hargrave gets re-signed and we take care of the other next year (unless Davis falls to #15)

Daxton Hill and Jordan Davis/Devonte Wyatt

Book it

If you believe that the Eagles' interest in Mathieu is legitimate, then Hill is the obvious choice.  He can play single high safety/slot corner and once we have him we can re-sign Steven Nelson after the draft or go after someone like Stephon Gilmore.  Hill makes too much sense, he does everything Mathieu does and is significantly cheaper.  Meanwhile Nelson would come back, clearly his demand around the league isn't super high and we built up some goodwill with him when he missed his bonus payout week 18, and the Eagles gave it to him anyway.

Davis or Wyatt becomes the Fletcher Cox replacement and in a year or two, they and Milton Williams take over the interior defensive line.  Hargrave continuing to play like he has gives them a solid 3-man rotation, and if there's ever going to be a spot where the Eagles would invest it's on the DL.

Second round depends on how the draft board shakes out.  I could see Howie packaging one of those 3's to jump up and snag someone.  Or he could move back and pick up more future picks.  Either way my bet is there's no way Howie sits tight at 51.

 

This will be me on draft night every time I read a post surprised how early the QBs are going:

With the Saints trade, it probably makes some sense to consider Ojabo again with one of our 1st round picks.

Its a clear statement from the team that they are pushing chips to the future. While theyll try to be competitive this year, itd be unwise to select a lesser prospect for short term competitiveness when youre really planning to grab your QB next year anyway, and compete in that window. And, as we all know the draft is for the future. Not necessarily right now. 

On the same token, thats not to say we wont see Ojabo this season. We can, and probably will. An Achilles in March means a player will be recovered around September. Which is the first month of the season. You can even take it slow with him and still have him for half of the season. 

Evan at that point Id still expect him to lack some burst. That will likely take a long time to come back. But you should still be able to get some productivity out of him. 

Hes not necessarily a total redshirt pick. 

 

I think Booth/Stingley, and Ojabo is the ideal 1st round for us at this point. Probably the most dominant duo of selections we can possibly make in our spots. 

 

Just now, hukdonfoniks said:

Daxton Hill and Jordan Davis/Devonte Wyatt

Book it

If you believe that the Eagles' interest in Mathieu is legitimate, then Hill is the obvious choice.  He can play single high safety/slot corner and once we have him we can re-sign Steven Nelson after the draft or go after someone like Stephon Gilmore.  Hill makes too much sense, he does everything Mathieu does and is significantly cheaper.  Meanwhile Nelson would come back, clearly his demand around the league isn't super high and we built up some goodwill with him when he missed his bonus payout week 18, and the Eagles gave it to him anyway.

Davis or Wyatt becomes the Fletcher Cox replacement and in a year or two, they and Milton Williams take over the interior defensive line.  Hargrave continuing to play like he has gives them a solid 3-man rotation, and if there's ever going to be a spot where the Eagles would invest it's on the DL.

Second round depends on how the draft board shakes out.  I could see Howie packaging one of those 3's to jump up and snag someone.  Or he could move back and pick up more future picks.  Either way my bet is there's no way Howie sits tight at 51.

 

The Eagles have expressed interest, but not enough to have Mathieu in for a visit.

1 minute ago, Texas Eagle said:

I would rather draft DE, WR, CB, S over a DT in first two days. Actually there's a big drop-off at DT so I wouldn't be upset if they skipped it entirely. Hargrave gets re-signed and we take care of it next year (unless David falls to #15)

DTs tend to early because there aren’t that many big athletic guys. Literally Williams and Marlin T in the cupboard for next year. It’s a need long term. 

1 minute ago, hukdonfoniks said:

Daxton Hill and Jordan Davis/Devonte Wyatt

Book it

If you believe that the Eagles' interest in Mathieu is legitimate, then Hill is the obvious choice.  He can play single high safety/slot corner and once we have him we can re-sign Steven Nelson after the draft or go after someone like Stephon Gilmore.  Hill makes too much sense, he does everything Mathieu does and is significantly cheaper.  Meanwhile Nelson would come back, clearly his demand around the league isn't super high and we built up some goodwill with him when he missed his bonus payout week 18, and the Eagles gave it to him anyway.

Davis or Wyatt becomes the Fletcher Cox replacement and in a year or two, they and Milton Williams take over the interior defensive line.  Hargrave continuing to play like he has gives them a solid 3-man rotation, and if there's ever going to be a spot where the Eagles would invest it's on the DL.

Second round depends on how the draft board shakes out.  I could see Howie packaging one of those 3's to jump up and snag someone.  Or he could move back and pick up more future picks.  Either way my bet is there's no way Howie sits tight at 51.

 

Ideally for the safety position theyd sign Mathieu and draft Hill. Harris can be the 3rd safety/LB in packages. 

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

I would rather draft DE, WR, CB, S over a DT in first two days. Actually there's a big drop-off at DT so I wouldn't be upset if they skipped it entirely. Hargrave gets re-signed and we take care of the other next year (unless David falls to #15)

I don't think there'll be a DE there that warrants the 15th or 18th pick. I'm not a big Karlaftis fan. I also don't love any of the R1 receivers other than Wilson, and he will be gone by then. At CB, I realistically want Booth or Stingley and agree with you on CB in R1. That leaves S. To be realistic, the Eagles odds of taking a QB R1 are probably higher than taking a S. Take a look at my newest mock draft which includes a few realistic trades to see what I would like to see play out: Outlaw's 3rd Mock Draft

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

With the Saints trade, it probably makes some sense to consider Ojabo again with one of our 1st round picks.

In an ideal world they trade back to mid 20s and draft him there while picking up an additional 2nd

37 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2022/consensus-mock-draft-2022

Consensus seems to have Hamilton and Stingley available at #10.

Move up to get either of them?  Which would you prefer?

Hamilton.

2017 the eagles had the least amount of money allocated toward corner and one of the highest amounts t money allocated to safety.

This was explained as an analytic decision as the analytics showed at the time that safeties had more impact in the game than corner.

A safety like Jenkins who could move all over the field and line up in different spots is more valuable than a corner that lives up in one spot and is basically asked to do one thing all game.

Not to mention the league rules that put a premium on passing and give a distinct advantage to receivers while handcuffings defenders.

If a DB is going to get lit up every game regardless due to the rules dictating so then ones resources might be better spent on defenders that can do more than the one thing the league rules restricts them from doing, playing pass coverage.

With a safety one is getting more bang for ones buck.

In college Hamilton was used all over the field, as a deep safety, single high or split, in the box, as a dime LB, as a blitzer off the edge or from the box and often lined up to cover the slot.

Meanwhile stingley lined up same place every game doing the one thing he's asked to do, cover and despite how good he is or isn't got lit up every game due to rules that favor passing.

It may not be conventional thinking and I'm not sure why Howie got away from it after 2017 but I'll take a top 10 safety in today's league over a top ten corner.

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

DTs tend to early because there aren’t that many big athletic guys. Literally Williams and Marlin T in the cupboard for next year. It’s a need long term. 

I don't see the Eagles letting Hargrave walk. I bet he gets brought back on a two year deal (or extended).

4 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Take a look at my newest mock draft which includes a few realistic trades

Are they "realistic" though ??

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ideally for the safety position theyd sign Mathieu and draft Hill. Harris can be the 3rd safety/LB in packages. 

Ideally, maybe, but I don't think they'd pay Mathieu his money and move Harris.  Not at this point. 

I'm pretty sure the interest is legit, but if we have NO's 1st next year I wouldn't be mad at all if Mathieu signs there.  Let them tie their cap up for a player that won't be able to overcome all the problems they're gonna have this season.